Nintendo Brushes Away Widescreen DS Claims Page 1

irfy 08.07.2008#1

A very bad Photoshop indeed, just look at the screens alignment, the bottom one is slight gone to the left. I wouldn't mind a widescreen DS Smilie

mooojc 08.07.2008#2

A widescreen DS would be nice but I am more inyerested in the games that the ad contains. Smilie

RudyC3 08.07.2008#3

Changing the aspect ratio of a LCD screen makes you automatically change the resolution. They can't change the resolution for DS Screens.Already released games would look like shit, or would be letterboxed, and newer games that would take full advantage of the new resoution could not be played on an older DS.

You just can't speculate on wether it would happen or not. Larger screens, that could be done, cuz' you could keep the same resolution as long as the aspect ratio is kept. But only wider, that can't be.

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Mandown 08.07.2008#4

Kafei2006 said:
Changing the aspect ratio of a LCD screen makes you automatically change the resolution. They can\'t change the resolution for DS Screens. Already released games would look like shit, or would be letterboxed, and newer games that would take full advantage of the new resoution could not be played on an older DS.
You just can\'t speculate on wether it would happen or not. Larger screens, that could be done, cuz\' you could keep the same resolution as long as the aspect ratio is kept. But only wider, that can\'t be.

Despite what some of what you say being true I really do not think it would look as bad as you suggest. Also, games of old played on the new DS could revert to a the normal aspect ratio easily with a change in the onboard display drivers.

I actually think this is very true, I recall the revelation last year about the Granny DS in Famitsu rumours section, this is perfectly in keeping with that. Rumours are that it will feature no GBA port and be thinner also.

The above pic is shoddy PS work, the screen lines do not align, but this is still true in my eyes. Tom Magrino reported this last year I recall.

If you look around the edges of the screen you can clearly see a line which has not been photo shopped, a depression line which does not exist on a normal DS lite Smilie

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Analyst: DS redesign already done
Pacific Crest Securities\' Evan Wilson says new version of Nintendo\'s portable complete; holiday release torrent creating retail woes.
By Tom Magrino, GameSpot
Posted Nov 14, 2007 10:08 pm GMT

Nintendo\'s DS Lite redesign has proved a tremendous success, regularly topping hardware sales charts around the world since it was first released in Japan in March 2006. Despite the system\'s success, Pacific Crest Securities analyst Evan Wilson believes Nintendo has already finished work on its successor.

\"Our contacts indicate that a refreshed DS is complete,\" Wilson said today in his holiday preview investor\'s note. \"It is thinner (it has no GBA port), has on-board storage, and larger screens. However, we do not expect a revamped Wii or DS until sales begin to tail off in all three major geographies.\" As of press time, a Nintendo of America representative had not responded to GameSpot\'s request for comment.

In addition to dropping hints on a redesigned handheld, Wilson addressed the challenges publishers are facing during the jam-packed holiday retail season. Specifically, Wilson said Nintendo is placing publishers in a \"difficult spot.\" With reorders for third-party DS and Wii games taking three to six weeks to fill, Wilson said publishers have a harder time adjusting if they underestimate sales and also risk having to take products back from retailers if their initial orders are too optimistic.

The holiday release torrent is also having adverse effects at retail chains. According to Wilson, the influx of Nintendo-platform releases, as well as bulky Guitar Hero and Rock Band packaging and a resurgence of sales for summer blockbuster game tie-ins due to holiday DVD releases, are contributing most significantly to retail real estate becoming a hot commodity.

Wilson notes that not all games will be affected by insufficient retail space. \"Clearly, the end-of-year squeeze creates limited space at retail, which limits the size of initial orders of games with less publicity and reorders of games with lower quality.\" He anticipates games with high preorder rates, such as Guitar Hero III, Call of Duty 4, Assassins\' Creed, Mass Effect, WWE, and Rock Band, to be less affected by insufficient retail space. \"Titles that could be at risk of getting squeezed,\" he continues, \"include Haze, Kane & Lynch, and Uncharted.\"

The influx of original games is also having a negative effect on publishers\' annualized offerings, according to Wilson. \"It appears that when they are offered increased choice, consumers pass on games that they purchased the previous year or know that they can purchase the following year.\" Wilson notes that 2007 is shaping up much like 2004, with sports franchises, such as NCAA Football, Madden NFL, and NBA Live, all shifting significantly fewer units than the year before.

\"According to NPD, Madden sales are tracking down 6.4 percent in August and September versus the same period last year, with unit sales down 8.9 percent. NCAA Football sales are down 20.7 percent this year versus last year,\" Wilson said.

( Edited 08.07.2008 14:08 by Linkyshinks )

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[quote][b]Kafei2006 said:[/b]<br/>Changing the aspect ratio of a LCD screen makes you automatically change the resolution. They can't change the resolution for DS Screens. Already released games would look like shit, or would be letterboxed, and newer games that would take full advantage of the new resoution could not be played on an older DS.

You just can't speculate on wether it would happen or not. Larger screens, that could be done, cuz' you could keep the same resolution as long as the aspect ratio is kept. But only wider, that can't be.[/quote]

Despite what some of what you say being true I really do not think it would look as bad as you suggest. Also, games of old played on the new DS could revert to a the normal aspect ratio easily with a change in the onboard display drivers.

I actually think this is very true, I recall the  revelation last year about the Granny DS in Famitsu rumours section, this is perfectly in keeping with that. Rumours are that it will feature no GBA port and be thinner also.

The above pic is shoddy PS work, the screen lines do not align, but this is still true in my eyes. Tom Magrino reported this last year I recall.

If you look around the edges of the screen you can clearly see a line which has not been photo shopped, a depression line which does not exist on a normal DS lite ;)

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Analyst: DS redesign already done
Pacific Crest Securities' Evan Wilson says new version of Nintendo's portable complete; holiday release torrent creating retail woes.
By Tom Magrino, GameSpot
Posted Nov 14, 2007 10:08 pm GMT

Nintendo's DS Lite redesign has proved a tremendous success, regularly topping hardware sales charts around the world since it was first released in Japan in March 2006. Despite the system's success, Pacific Crest Securities analyst Evan Wilson believes Nintendo has already finished work on its successor.

"Our contacts indicate that a refreshed DS is complete," Wilson said today in his holiday preview investor's note. "It is thinner (it has no GBA port), has on-board storage, and larger screens. However, we do not expect a revamped Wii or DS until sales begin to tail off in all three major geographies." As of press time, a Nintendo of America representative had not responded to GameSpot's request for comment.

In addition to dropping hints on a redesigned handheld, Wilson addressed the challenges publishers are facing during the jam-packed holiday retail season. Specifically, Wilson said Nintendo is placing publishers in a "difficult spot." With reorders for third-party DS and Wii games taking three to six weeks to fill, Wilson said publishers have a harder time adjusting if they underestimate sales and also risk having to take products back from retailers if their initial orders are too optimistic.

The holiday release torrent is also having adverse effects at retail chains. According to Wilson, the influx of Nintendo-platform releases, as well as bulky Guitar Hero and Rock Band packaging and a resurgence of sales for summer blockbuster game tie-ins due to holiday DVD releases, are contributing most significantly to retail real estate becoming a hot commodity.

Wilson notes that not all games will be affected by insufficient retail space. "Clearly, the end-of-year squeeze creates limited space at retail, which limits the size of initial orders of games with less publicity and reorders of games with lower quality." He anticipates games with high preorder rates, such as Guitar Hero III, Call of Duty 4, Assassins' Creed, Mass Effect, WWE, and Rock Band, to be less affected by insufficient retail space. "Titles that could be at risk of getting squeezed," he continues, "include Haze, Kane & Lynch, and Uncharted."

The influx of original games is also having a negative effect on publishers' annualized offerings, according to Wilson. "It appears that when they are offered increased choice, consumers pass on games that they purchased the previous year or know that they can purchase the following year." Wilson notes that 2007 is shaping up much like 2004, with sports franchises, such as NCAA Football, Madden NFL, and NBA Live, all shifting significantly fewer units than the year before.

"According to NPD, Madden sales are tracking down 6.4 percent in August and September versus the same period last year, with unit sales down 8.9 percent. NCAA Football sales are down 20.7 percent this year versus last year," Wilson said.

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Tim~Tam 08.07.2008#5

heh heh, \"An photoshop blunder\"

Linkyshinks, you got a link to that? plz.

( Edited 08.07.2008 14:29 by Tim~Tam )

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E-Dracon 08.07.2008#6

they were just trying to show some things that would be hard to show on pictures of a real ds.

James2t3 08.07.2008#7

Well theres no doudting that the next gen DS will have widscreens but I dont think the next iteration of the current DS will have them.

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darksnowman 08.07.2008#8

edracon said:
they were just trying to show some things that would be hard to show on pictures of a real ds.

Yeah I'm with this. They just made the screens bigger to show off more of the games its advertising.

xXxTin Can ManxXx 08.07.2008#9

Low battery, eh.

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Mandown 08.07.2008#10

Blade2t3 said:
Well theres no doudting that the next gen DS will have widscreens but I dont think the next iteration of the current DS will have them.

Don't underestimate Nintendo's ability to squeeze as much money as they can out of doing such things. Three versions of the GBA, don't not forget the ickle Micro.

Tim-Tam, why do you need a link ffs, there's the story in front of you, it's not a alleged fake like this DS.

Guest 08.07.2008#11

Why don't they first fix the get a cramp in your hand when holding the DS for longer than an hour feature?

Or is that just me and my fat DS.

Glenjamin 08.07.2008#12

Wow I never noticed that in the advert when I first read the magazine. I wouldn't mind a widescreen DS. Looks pretty cool.

E-Dracon 08.07.2008#13

sorry for reposting.
They weren't showing a new DS, they were trying to show artwork and the names of some new games that are coming out, and they put it on FAKE widescreen DS's to better show the artwork. They were never saying "Hey look, widescreen DS's" they were saying "These games are coming out, they are on DS. Look at the artwork!"

Anyone who assumed or even asked about Widescreen DS's and thought they would be coming out because of this creative way to show artwork is a moron (or is just not thinking straight).

PLEASE THINK BEFORE ASSUMING!

Birdo Is A Tranny 08.07.2008#14

Tin Can Man said:
Low battery, eh.

Wierd *ponders*

James2t3 08.07.2008#15

Linkyshinks said:
Blade2t3 said:
Well theres no doudting that the next gen DS will have widscreens but I dont think the next iteration of the current DS will have them.
Don't underestimate Nintendo's ability to squeeze as much money as they can out of doing such things. Three versions of the GBA, don't not forget the ickle Micro.

But nintendo never enlarged the screens of any of the GBA hardware.

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Mandown 08.07.2008#16

Blade2t3 said:
Linkyshinks said:
Blade2t3 said:
Well theres no doudting that the next gen DS will have widscreens but I dont think the next iteration of the current DS will have them.
Don\'t underestimate Nintendo\'s ability to squeeze as much money as they can out of doing such things. Three versions of the GBA, don\'t not forget the ickle Micro.

But nintendo never enlarged the screens of any of the GBA hardware.

No your right Nintendo went the other way, they improved the definition of the GBA by making it smaller but keeping the same number of pixels. Gameboy Micro may well have been a commercial failure, but it is still awesome
This still remains a good design choice, and the DS could certainly to with such a lift. It could improve it\'s connectivity with the Wii if it had on board memory. Especially for downloadable Gameboy games and Wii games like Animal Crossing Wii when it comes out. Older gamers will be able to play better after earlier griping about the small screen size. By removing the GBA functionality they are also reducing cost to level it out. Even still LCD manufacture is now cheaper than it once was and screens of that size can be got a lot cheaper. It\'s well within Nintendo\'s realm financially now.
( Edited 08.07.2008 19:57 by Linkyshinks )

Stulaw 08.07.2008#17

I've seen this type of advertising with DS screens before, but it was the DS Fat, can't remember what game though, may have even been a japanese ad.

When there is a new Nintendo handheld, if it is widescreen, they could do what the DS did with the GBA games and project a smaller screen only using certain points of the touch screen, and then it may only be one big touchscreen with some buttons.

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Fatman 08.07.2008#18

Its just an ad to promote the games. they needed more space so they widened the screen big deal.

A fail so epic, it may just be a win.

Mandown 09.07.2008#19

If this was all based in fact, I could easily see Nintendo making more money than ever lol. They could tout it as having better compatibility with the Wii, that would make Wii owners feel more of a need to get one. If it were to have on board memory it could make it more of a multimedia device. Nintendo could also sell games on the Wii Shopping Channel. I think some Wii games could use it as a imput device because the larger screen would make that more easy.

Darkflame 09.07.2008#20

That would be horrible to hold.
And indeed, utterly stupid to split the market with two resolutions.

The DS has plenty of life left....if Nintendo works on its online features a bit.
DS<>Wii holds a lot of potential, as does downloads onto rewritable carts. (they are practicaly SD cards anyway)

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Modplan Man 09.07.2008#21

Kafei2006 said:
Changing the aspect ratio of a LCD screen makes you automatically change the resolution. They can't change the resolution for DS Screens.Already released games would look like shit, or would be letterboxed, and newer games that would take full advantage of the new resoution could not be played on an older DS.
You just can't speculate on wether it would happen or not. Larger screens, that could be done, cuz' you could keep the same resolution as long as the aspect ratio is kept. But only wider, that can't be.

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