Pokémon Was Suppose to End With Gold/Silver

I would probably be that much closer to considering cancelling my irl subscription.

Seriously, I can't believe it was meant to be that short. Thank god they kept it going. Pokémon is easily my favourite game series, it's hard to imagine my gaming life without it ^^;

Well the games haven't changed drastically since, so maybe in actual fact they did stop at G/S.

Maybe that's why there was so much effort put into the Gold/Silver games while the newer games seem kinda lazy (they are still great games, DPP being my favorite generation).

I doubt that Nintendo planned on stopping pokemon after the second generation- they probably figured they would move development to a different team.

I wish it did end back then. All the pokemon games after those two (except for cristal) sucked. Platinum was ok.

My gaming experience is based upon Pokemon and all that it is. It's what brought me into gaming, it's what brought me to Nintendo and it's what brought me to where I'm at in life. That sounds way big, but I'm known for being a Pokemon kid. (And not the kind that is socially incapable. It's a positive thing for people with me.)
In short, I'm glad they kept going.
The significance amounts to each individual person. In terms of the gaming industry, it made something that can't be replicated and liked as much. Pokemon stands out on its own accord. (Of course, I speak only of the main series and its main console counterparts; Pokemon Colosseum for Pokemon Ruby, Sapphire and Emerald for example.)

I admit that the pokemon after the second generation started to look totally weird. But to think that it would've ended with Gold/Silver is a scary thought. Not only does pokemon keep getting more fans, it sticks with the older ones aswell. I can't imagine how it would've been without more pokemon.
Even when I fell out of gaming I still got bursts of "pokemania".

New games aswell as remakes of old, they always pull through. Sure, if the series goes on for too long it might get silly, but not yet!

Still waiting/hoping for a mmorpg. *cough* I believe that would maybe even beat World of Warcraft in popularity.

I'm so glad that Pokemon is still popular.

What I don't understand is why they wont release a new main-stream Pokemon title on the Wii. It would sell crazy like Mario Kart or NSMB Wii.

I think G/S had the most effort - loads of Gyms, good sidequests - the whole lot really. I can see why they thought it would end there and they wanted to conclude with a bang. D/P I liked, but it was far too short imo - found it hard to pace out!

If this was the case I would lose the will to live. Because the Pokemon games are awesome. They should not have been saying that these could have been the last in the series. Stupid Nintendo, why end a perfectly strong game series?

Looking back, pokemon Gold/Silver are FAR superior to the pokemon games that followed. I almost wish it had all ended with the 2nd generation, but I still hold out hope of Nintendo making a great pokemon game again.

I've recently started playing Gold again and it made me realise that the love for the 2nd gen had nothing to do nostalgia and everything to do with them being totally amazing.

I'm not seeing it, I can't stand the old box system and how slow you travel/etc. The upgrades made since Gen 2 have been pretty major really. They may not be across 2 regions, but both Johto and Kanto are incredibly tiny in comparison to Hoenn and Sinnoh.


Unless you're talking about the remakes I think they've aged pretty badly. It all feels dated, the game mechanics are broken/unfair and everything is much slower paced.

Top that off with how annoying rematches are to hold in Gen II, and no Safari Zone, and there are plenty of things Gen II lacks.

( Edited 22.03.2010 17:00 by SuperLink )

Alright, the box system was hardly genius (although I can't even remember how it's done on Diamond). The upgrades have been major? I disagree. The only things I've noticed so far is the addition of things like telling you how much your stats have changed when you level up, or telling you how many of an item you already have when buying from a shop.


Again I disagree. They're all a pretty decent size, but you can't beat the idea of 16 gym leaders!


No, I'm not talking about the remakes (I don't even understand why people would buy pokemon remakes tbh). The game still feels as fresh as ever to me. I don't really know what's broken about it either although i admit there may be something I'm not seeing. As for slower paced, ARE YOU HAVING A LAUGH!? Diamond is a crawl compared to Gold/Silver! I get frustrated by how slow the battles are in Diamond compared to Gold, along with how long it takes just to save your progress.


I don't bother with rematches, although I admit the addition of a Safari Zone style location would have been nice.

Also Pokegear>>Pokewatch

Check out the box system in HG/SS and say that again.


Those thing are pretty minor imo, I'm surprised you even noticed them.


In Gen 2 you can beat Chuck and Jasmine within minutes of each other, and you can pretty much conquer Kanto in a day. That's amazing pacing, right there./sarcasm


Psychic types can destroy most Pokémon with ease, in Gen II there were still no good Bug/Dark Moves/Pokémon.


No I'm not, yes D/P were slow in battles but Platinum was fine and HG/SS are arguably even faster in battles than the oldest titles. That's not even what I was getting at. Enjoy walking for the whole game and riding a bike that barely goes faster than Gen 3/4's running speed.

The saving progress thing is just ridiculous though, and it's the developers' fault, it could very easily be made quicker.


Probably because Gen 2 is your favourite and they're pretty much useless in that. In Gen 3/4 they're incredibly handy for training.


Disagree completely, having to open a menu every time you want to look at the map is incredibly annoying after playing D/P/Pt.
Although I do love the radio and the phone, I wish Gen 4 had that. Even Gen 3 had a phone.

I will check them out at some point.


I admit the Kanto region is comparatively short, but it's like a bonus more then anything else. I have no complaints.


The dark type was added specifically to weaken Psychic pokemon, so it's clearly less broken then the 1st generation. And correct me if I'm wrong but isn't Ghost also Super effective against Psychic? Shadow ball is a pretty good move.


I have missed the ability to run, generally it's fine. Any significant travelling is done by bike (once you get one), which goes plenty fast for me.

Thing is without Kanto, Gen 2 is even shorter/easier than Gen 1 ^-^;


Yeah that's for sure, but it's still consierably more broken than later gens.


Most ghost types in Gen II are part Poison which Psychic can obliterate with ease, even if they do happen to have a strong Ghost move on their arsenal. Misdreavous isn't Poison, but you can only get it right at the end of the game, and its stats aren't brilliant either.


Yeah the bike is fine, but that's still quite a ways into the game and can't be used indoors or in building dungeons.

EDIT: Oh man, playing HG/SS reminds me how ridiculous the pacing was in this gen. Grinding to fight stronger enemies was a joke because the Wild Pokémon were so weak and rematches are awkward, and 3 or more Gym Leaders had Pokémon levelled between 20 and 30.

And then there's a huge difficulty jump after you get to Kanto. I'd have thought they'd have fixed the levelling problems for the remakes

( Edited 24.03.2010 18:16 by SuperLink )

Yeh, it is probably the easiest pokemon out there, but it's still a good length before Kanto is added, and Kanto does add a significant amount (sure it's short for a whole region, but it's still several hours of gameplay).

Also, the ease of completing the game is somewhat made up for by the tear-your-hair-out legendary dogs.


I wouldn't really call it broken. Sure, psychic is one of the better types, but it's not like it completely owns everything. I'm sure I remember a good bug move as well, but I may be mistaken.


It's not really that far in the game tbh, but I agree that being able to run would be nice.

( Edited 25.03.2010 21:50 by Cheesing it up )

Megahorn iirc.
But even then there are no powerful Bug types to use it. Heracross is OK, but it's also part Fighting, let one decent Psychic type attack before it and bam, it's done.

And I haven't played Gen2 for a while, but man, I don't remember it being this ridiculously easy o.0;, Clair's team is made up of Pokémon mostly under 40, and not a single Gym Leader after Bugsy was very challenging at all.

This post from someone another forum puts it quite well:


Considering the lofty heights the levels get to in this Gen, how are you supposed to train when Pokémon in the wild just barely break 40 by Mt Silver?
I wish they'd added a more Vs Seeker like option to the Pokégear. The phone is awesome, but it sucks for rematches.

If it weren't for the awesome features in HG/SS (amazing detail in everything, Poké followers, and amazing touch control), I'd say Gen IV would be the best, almost without doubt

( Edited 25.03.2010 22:09 by SuperLink )

To be quite honest, if it didend, then there would be no Mystery Dungeon.

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( Edited 18.01.2011 08:55 by bantankhoon )

The question is, why didn't it end?
Not like I wanted it to end, but...