Ex-Rare Employee Declares Nintendo Love with Rape

By Jorge Ba-oh 25.05.2011 22

Ex-Rare Employee Declares Nintendo Love with Rape on Nintendo gaming news, videos and discussion

Christopher Seavor, who previously worked for Rare and Microsoft, declared that Nintendo would "rape" the competition at E3.

Seavor, who worked at Rare as a graphic engineer and eventually crafted Conker's Bad Fur Day, expressed a fairly extreme opinion on how Nintendo will do at this year's E3 on his Twitter account.

Nintendo will rape them... RAPE. Hare, meet tortoise. Tortoise, this is hare. "Hare.......", said the tortoise. "Here's a big f**k you!"

Granted Seavor hasn't seen the next Nintendo console, expressing that he's only "seen what everyone else has, less probably, but I have every confidence in them."

Almost defeats the purpose of this fine article, but interestingly nonetheless... No? Okay!

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SirLink is offline. SirLink 25.05.2011#1

"and eventually crafted Conker's Bad Fur Day"

That would explain his choice of words. Smilie

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Amethyst is offline. Amethyst 25.05.2011#2

Sounds exciting Smilie Keen for E3

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bornforthis43 is offline. bornforthis43 25.05.2011#3

DAAAAAAAAAAMMMMMMMMMMMMNNNN. Strong choice of words.

 
Vorash Kadan 25.05.2011#4

Well even if Nintendo RAPES SOny & Microsft's confidence like they did with the Wii I'm glad they'll be mature & not showboat like SOny is known for. Let the little kids fight amongst themselves while big daddy Nintendo looks down in pity...Smilie

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PMD is offline. PMD 25.05.2011#5

Nintendo will probably show off their new console maybe with a couple sceenshots and people will ooh and ahh. Then Microsoft will barge in and show everyone what their next console will do with a bunch of prerendered videos and clips from Blackhawk Down and everyone will laugh at Nintendo.

Calling it now.

 
crackedthesky is offline. crackedthesky 25.05.2011#6

PMD said:
Nintendo will probably show off their new console maybe with a couple sceenshots and people will ooh and ahh. Then Microsoft will barge in and show everyone what their next console will do with a bunch of prerendered videos and clips from Blackhawk Down and everyone will laugh at Nintendo.

Calling it now.

Well, E3 happens in America, so pretty much.

Microsoft could show a cardboard box you sit inside of and pretend you're playing games and the American news outlets would rabble on about how Microsoft "won" E3. Just like the Kinect "won" E3 last year over the 3DS. Never mind how Kinect has sold a romping stomping 10 million units worldwide (in comparison, the Wii MotionPlus sold 1.3 million in its first week alone), but Microsoft "won". What they "won", I'm still not sure, but they "won".

American news sources are incredibly biased toward the Xbox. GameInformer's previews of games for all three consoles won't even list those games as being on the Wii at all. They gave Spider-Man: Web of Shadows for Wii a 6/10 citing the way "building and objects render in front of you", but that happens constantly in Fallout New Vegas and they gave that game 9/10. It's ridiculous.

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Sonic_13 is offline. Sonic_13 25.05.2011#7

PMD said:
Nintendo will probably show off their new console maybe with a couple sceenshots and people will ooh and ahh.

Nintendo has already announced that the system will be in fully playable form.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/pdf/2011/110425_4e.pdf

 
Flynnie is offline. Flynnie 25.05.2011#8

So in the words of Kenneth Clarke, are we looking at date rape? Serious rape? Or rape of a 17 year old and a 15 year old?

 
Canyarion is offline. Canyarion 25.05.2011#9

Woah, it's less than 2 weeks away! Smilie I remember last year I wasn't excited about E� at all, but now..!

 
Martin_ is offline. Martin_ 25.05.2011#10

I was gonna post something horrible about how this doesn't really mean anything, but then you said it for me.

Almost defeats the purpose of this fine article, but interestingly nonetheless... No? Okay!

In my opinion, they will rape purely because they're the only ones showing a new home console. There's nothing more exciting in video game land than that. If Nintendo showed this console and there wasn't a massive fanfare over it, that'd be pretty terrible.

In short - Nintendo will have to actively fuck-up to not come out on top, this E3.

( Edited 25.05.2011 19:31 by Martin_ )

 
bornforthis43 is offline. bornforthis43 25.05.2011#11


Well, E3 happens in America, so pretty much.

American news sources are incredibly biased toward the Xbox. GameInformer's previews of games for all three consoles won't even list those games as being on the Wii at all. They gave Spider-Man: Web of Shadows for Wii a 6/10 citing the way "building and objects render in front of you", but that happens constantly in Fallout New Vegas and they gave that game 9/10. It's ridiculous.

You could say the exact same thing about Japan and how they never talk about the 360. And I'm not trying to say Japan, America, or Europe (I know it's a continent, but I'm saying this for categorical reasons), are better than each other, it's just that each place will try to promote their own domestic products than foreign ones. Nothing American about that. Everyone does it (and I think it's pretty ridiculous, but it's not tied to a single place).

 
Martin_ is offline. Martin_ 26.05.2011#12

Europe was a PlayStation stronghold until this generation. Before that, it was a SEGA stronghold (Sony killed them and became the new dons of Europe).

 
Canyarion is offline. Canyarion 26.05.2011#13

People have often said that Europe loves Sony. But I think the thing is rather we hate Microsoft. Nintendo is doing just fine here, but Microsoft isn't. In response, people go for the PS2/3.

 
Martin_ is offline. Martin_ 27.05.2011#14

Canyarion said:
People have often said that Europe loves Sony. But I think the thing is rather we hate Microsoft. Nintendo is doing just fine here, but Microsoft isn't. In response, people go for the PS2/3.

Not sure I agree. Doesn't everyone hate Microsoft in equal measure? They were investigated some years back by the Monopolies Commission, and though they were not found to be officially doing anything wrong, people never forgot it.

As for Sony's current performance in Europe - I don't really know. I know just as many people with 360s as people with PS3s. Interestingly, I don't know many 'gamers' who have a Wii. Mostly girls and young families. Make of that what you will.

In the fifth and sixth console generations in Europe, Sony completely ruled the roost. Not sure how old you are, but I'm old enough to remember gaming in the late 80s. Back then, SEGA really owned the European gaming market space. The Master System was a success in this region and South America (not in any other!).

SEGA then followed that up with his holiness the Mega Drive. If you were a European in this era and had a games console, it was almost certainly a Mega Drive. The SNES was comparatively-unpopular in this region. I only knew a couple of people who had one. Everyone else had an MD. I don't just base it on that, though. It's a documented fact.

SEGA then started getting corporate schizophrenia and decided that it would be a good idea to release two expensive add-ons for the Mega Drive, and a whole new very expensive console, all within a few years.

Nintendo had become thoroughly-disinterested in the continent by this point, since they had failed to best SEGA, who had fallen to Nintendo everywhere else (the MD held a reasonable share in the US, but the SNES dominated).

What followed was an extremely dark period for European Nintendo gamers, one which would last for well over a decade. On the NES, SNES, N64, and GameCube European gamers were almost boycotted by Nintendo. Many games simply never made it to the continent, and lots of the ones that did suffered immense delays, many taking the best part of a year (sometimes more!) to show up in Europe after release in America.

So at this point (early-mid 90s) we have a Nintendo who don't give a fuck about Europe, a SEGA who started getting drunk on their success in the region, leading them to do too much cocaine and start coming up with ridiculous ideas which confused everyone. They decided that the Saturn should cost £399.99 at launch.

That's 1995 money. If adjusted for inflation, this becomes £599.71 in 2010 money (cannot yet calculate for 2011). £600 for a console that had a laughable launch line-up. Obviously, hardly anyone bought it. I remember asking my parents for a SEGA Saturn. They looked at how much it cost and laughed at me.

Sony chose to strike at this point. A few months down the line in September of '95 Sony released the venerable PlayStation in Europe, which cost far less, had more games at launch, and more impressive graphics.

SEGA retorted by introducing several savage price-cuts on the Saturn, but it was too late. Sony had already taken Europe from under the nose of a drunken SEGA, and the apathetic Nintendo was too busy trying to maintain their dominance in other regions.

As we all know, Nintendo would fail in doing this, attempting to push a console with a poor line-up of extremely expensive cartridge games. Developers left the sinking ship and it wasn't too long before the PlayStation dominated pretty much everywhere.

The Saturn enjoyed some success in Japan, but nowhere else. The N64 flopped in Japan, did good in the US with a reasonable market share (though Sony dominated), and did pants in Europe. Anyone remember those tiny corners of GAME that N64 products were relegated to (right next to the even smaller SEGA Saturn shelf)?

SEGA upped it's game in 1999 with the ground-breaking Dreamcast (seriously, that console did things that new consoles pretend to have done first). Not only was it technically very strong, it was also damn cheap for a new console.

£199.99. I remember paying that on launch, with a copy of Virtua Fighter 3 to go with. I even remember the console being delayed in Europe from September 23rd to October 14th, due to longer-than-expected construction of the European Dreamarena.

Although they totally got it right with the hardware (with the possible exception of not having a DVD drive), they had some kind of mental breakdown when it came to marketing it. Adverts featured sweaty men cutting each others hair, sponsoring Arsenal FC, etc.

Most people who loved football back then didn't play games (I know it's different now). As for the television adverts, had they actually shown any footage of games, people would have been blown away. As it was, most people just stuck with their PlayStations.

A year later in 2000 Sony hit back and cemented themselves as the biggest provider of video game entertainment with the PS2. It wasn't so long ago, so I guess you remember all this. In a nutshell - most successful console EVER. It sold over 150 million. More than anything else ever has.

With the PS2, Sony dominated in all regions. This generation saw a new entrant - Microsoft with the Xbox. The only reason that console didn't disappear like the Dreamcast is that it had the world's richest corporation/monopoly backing it. They lost billions on that console.

But because MS and it's umpteen umbrella operations have essentially bottomless-pockets, and they saw how lucrative the console market could be, they kept the Xbox division afloat regardless of the losses incurred. They hoped to establish a brand which would become profitable in time.

Nintendo released the wet fart that was the GameCube. With it's useless little diddy discs, Tonka Toy visual cues, mostly-childish software lineup (despite the best RE game ever - REmake), and being officially-purple, it did not really make a dent on the PS2. The little discs were apparently Nintendo's compromise with developers.

Extremely piracy-conscious (the reason the N64 did not use discs), Nintendo thought this would be a good middle-ground. This would backfire hilariously when people discovered that the GameCube was just as pirate-friendly as the PS2/Xbox. The only difference is that you had to use mini DVD-Rs meant for camcorders. So once again the current Nintendo platform of the day would suffer a big storage-capacity disadvantage to competitors, but unlike before, was equally-susceptible to piracy.

Now we arrive at this generation. Nintendo have pwned by not trying to sell their console to gamers (who are a very discerning bunch), but rather everyone else. MS and Sony are fighting over the core audience, and seem (to me) to be on a relatively level-pegging. MS has a bigger share than Sony in the US, not sure about Europe (I reckon about the same?), and roughly 4 people in Japan have a 360.

I've no idea why I typed all this out. Hopefully someone won't see it as a "tl;dr" Smilie

 
xxThe_Dice_manxx is offline. xxThe_Dice_manxx 27.05.2011#15

Greetings

Lets not get carried away with your pro sony propaganda campaign old chap Smilie

We all know that Nintendo has had the superior hardware in every generation except ironically this generation.

The nes was the best console of its generation and introduced gamers to the Dpad, also introducing lengendary games.

The Snes was the best of its generation and introduced the shoulder buttons, along with more legendary games.

The N64 was the best of its generation, introduced the analog stick and true 3d gaming experience.And had some of the greatest games in history for it.
Due to the cartridge/poor 3rd party support it failed.

The gamecube was superior to the ps2 in hardware, but again the strange minidisc and poor 3rd party support along with bad advertising it failed.But still had a catalog of legendary games.

Then the Wii the worst in hardware yet it put Nintendo back at the helm, mainly due to its innovation of the Wiimote and excellent advertising campaign.

Not as many great games as I would have expected and this makes the Wii in my opinion the worst of the bunch.

With the announcement of project cafe to be released early 2012 way ahead of the competition one can only be excited, as this if they get it right will be the the one the GAMERS have been waiting for.

All in all forget the sales figures etc, Nintendo are the very very best when it comes to video games and consoles, no one comes close.

And to echo the Rare guy this piece is about, Nintendo will rape the oposition this time.

 
Martin_ is offline. Martin_ 27.05.2011#16

xxThe_Dice_manxx said:
Greetings

Lets not get carried away with your pro sony propaganda campaign old chap Smilie

I didn't get carried away. Look those things up for yourself.

xxThe_Dice_manxx said:
We all know that Nintendo has had the superior hardware in every generation except ironically this generation.

Untrue. The SEGA Master System was significantly more powerful than the NES, the MD and SNES have pros and cons, and the Xbox was more powerful than the GameCube.

xxThe_Dice_manxx said:
The nes was the best console of its generation and introduced gamers to the Dpad, also introducing lengendary games.

It probably was the best of it's generation, but you have entirely missed the point. I was talking about market share. Nothing more.

xxThe_Dice_manxx said:
The Snes was the best of its generation and introduced the shoulder buttons, along with more legendary games.

Debatable.

xxThe_Dice_manxx said:
The N64 was the best of its generation, introduced the analog stick and true 3d gaming experience.And had some of the greatest games in history for it.
Due to the cartridge/poor 3rd party support it failed.

Highly-debatable.

xxThe_Dice_manxx said:
The gamecube was superior to the ps2 in hardware, but again the strange minidisc and poor 3rd party support along with bad advertising it failed.But still had a catalog of legendary games.

But not superior to it's other competitor, the original Xbox.

xxThe_Dice_manxx said:
All in all forget the sales figures etc, Nintendo are the very very best when it comes to video games and consoles, no one comes close.

And to echo the Rare guy this piece is about, Nintendo will rape the oposition this time.

Smilie

And I am spouting propaganda, you say? I know I did a long post, but I'd still prefer it if you actually read it before replying. If you did read it, then you're an idiot as you seem to have misunderstood everything. Well done.

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^ You.

 
Phoenom is offline. Phoenom 27.05.2011#17

Dice, I admire your passion for the Big N, but quite honestly I could see no untruths in Martin's post, even if he got carried away with the length a teeny tiny bit. Smilie

 
Marzeee is offline. Marzeee 27.05.2011#18

Yeah, Martin's post was actually very informative and I enjoyed reading it.

 
bornforthis43 is offline. bornforthis43 27.05.2011#19

Here's all the proof. http://www.vgchartz.com/hardware_totals.php

 
Mush is offline. Mush 27.05.2011#20

I've always been Nintendo and SEGA... never really liked one over the other, both great companies. I won't go to say that Sony is bigger than Microsoft in Europe, at least not in my county.

Go into my local GAME store and they'll all be Microsoft and Nintendo, there's like one employee there that is Sony and Nintendo. The people that work there are really friendly actually, I've had some quite long and interesting conversations with them. Sometimes for about an hour. Smilie

But it all boils down to personal preference. Always has, always will.

 
L is offline. L 27.05.2011#21

Martin the difference in market share between the SNES and MD in Europe is not as big as you are making it out to be. It was more like 49/51 in the MD's favour. The SNES was never unpopular in Europe.

 
xxThe_Dice_manxx is offline. xxThe_Dice_manxx 27.05.2011#22

Greeting

Thanks for your indepth reply Smilie

"I didn't get carried away. Look those things up for yourself."

Have done, I've owned them all, you got carried away Smilie

"Untrue. The SEGA Master System was significantly more powerful than the NES, the MD and SNES have pros and cons, and the Xbox was more powerful than the GameCube."

The master system had better sound and slightly better graphics than the nes but in games comparison, not even close, the Snes is arguably the greatest console of all time and to compare it to the md is a joke,The gamecube was less powerful than the xbox but better games much better picture and reliability.I didnt consider the xbox because it was a piece of crap, nuff said.

"It probably was the best of it's generation, but you have entirely missed the point. I was talking about market share. Nothing more."

Not probably.. WAS the best!, the nes sold more than the ms so your market share claim is invalid.

"Debatable."

No I dont think so....

"Highly-debatable."

Not bloody likely Smilie

"But not superior to it's other competitor, the original Xbox."

You seem not to have noticed I didnt mention the xbox, thats because it was very late to arrive, and was a paper weight when it did.

"And I am spouting propaganda, you say? I know I did a long post, but I'd still prefer it if you actually read it before replying. If you did read it, then you're an idiot as you seem to have misunderstood everything. Well done."

You are spouting propaganda, no question.I did read it and was quite amused at your skewed perception of history, I take your use of insults as some sort of defence mechanism for feeling threatened.

Why you would feel threatened and resort to such childish antics is unknown, perhaps you can enlighten me?

I also found your use of images in the same defence mechanism amusing as well Smilie



( Edited 27.05.2011 19:41 by xxThe_Dice_manxx )

 

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