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Nintendo News | Wii E3 Graphics: 'Tip Of The Iceberg'
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Speaking to GameDaily BIZ, ATI's John Swinimer, Senior Public Relations Manager of Consumer Products, has gone on record to state that Wii will be able to produce far better visuals than what we have seen so far. "I think what you saw [on Wii, at E3] was just the tip of the iceberg of what the Hollywood chip can bring to the Nintendo Wii," he said.
When pushed for more specifications, the only comment offered was: "I'm really not here to talk about the design specs... other than the fact that ATI worked closely with Nintendo. The team that worked on this chip also worked on the Flipper chip that was in GameCube, and they've been working with Nintendo for a very long time so there's a great chemistry with the two teams working together."
"I really don't think that it's about the [specifications]; I think it's about the innovation that it brings to the table
When pushed for more specifications, the only comment offered was: "I'm really not here to talk about the design specs... other than the fact that ATI worked closely with Nintendo. The team that worked on this chip also worked on the Flipper chip that was in GameCube, and they've been working with Nintendo for a very long time so there's a great chemistry with the two teams working together."
"I really don't think that it's about the [specifications]; I think it's about the innovation that it brings to the table
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To be honest I'm happy with the graphics as they are... but improved graphics would shut a lot of people up...so maybe it is for the best.
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Great news really. 
Although I like Nintendo's approach of focusing on gameplay, I still personally love to see some top notch visuals. Perhaps this is an indication that the Wii may excel on both fronts.
Although I like Nintendo's approach of focusing on gameplay, I still personally love to see some top notch visuals. Perhaps this is an indication that the Wii may excel on both fronts.Erm... yeh.
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I was happy with what I saw, anything else is a bonus, so who can complain?
It still sounds a little like 'clever news' designed to relieve pressure on all of us who are trying to defend the graphics of the Wii, heh.
I still believe what we saw will still be very much the same as what we get when playing the games.
It still sounds a little like 'clever news' designed to relieve pressure on all of us who are trying to defend the graphics of the Wii, heh.
I still believe what we saw will still be very much the same as what we get when playing the games.
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I reckon someone with 'the power' should post a load of links to other threads which have exhausted the whole graphics 'should-be-better-by-launch/are-great-as-they-are/look-like-badly-rendered-turds' subject.
Then this should be turned into the 'will I/won't I be able to get onto C3 tonight??' thread
I can't be alone in having trouble getting onto the site in the past few days??
Then this should be turned into the 'will I/won't I be able to get onto C3 tonight??' thread
I can't be alone in having trouble getting onto the site in the past few days??( Edited on 04.06.2006 12:03 by artmonkey )
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This seems like a huge bonus considering everyone is already happy with what we saw at E3. Still it might help persuade a few X360 and PS3 followers if the system has even better visuals.
To be honest I don't think the difference between the Wii and the other systems will be noticeable, at least not for a while. We have to remember that it takes time for developers to fully utilize the power of the X360 and PS3 (especially), while I've heard numerous people going on record to say it's easier to get the best out of the Wii, or Revolution as it was known at that time.
To be honest I don't think the difference between the Wii and the other systems will be noticeable, at least not for a while. We have to remember that it takes time for developers to fully utilize the power of the X360 and PS3 (especially), while I've heard numerous people going on record to say it's easier to get the best out of the Wii, or Revolution as it was known at that time.
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Ati currently have the best single GPU's on the market. The X1900XT & X1900XTX.
Why in gods name would they create a poor graphics chip for the Rev?
Why in gods name would they create a poor graphics chip for the Rev?
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Cost less. But the gc card was pretty good for it's time wasn't it?
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Believe me Artmonkey, you weren't the only one. I couldn't get one for several days...
The graphics getting better=Yay, big bonus.
The graphics staying the same=Cool with me, abilities are good enough already.
And people saying the graphics look like shit must admit, shit CAN be very hard to portray accurately... All those curves and nuts...
The graphics getting better=Yay, big bonus.
The graphics staying the same=Cool with me, abilities are good enough already.
And people saying the graphics look like shit must admit, shit CAN be very hard to portray accurately... All those curves and nuts...
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i dont really mind, but i just checked on play.com and they are doing pre-orders for Wii games at 
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Hmmm.. the comment that it's just the tip of the Ice berg might not be reffering to better graphics. It could be referring to how it can handle the wiiremote or the wiiconnect24...thats what I got from it anyway.
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Hollywood is the GPU which ATI is developing - they're definitely talking about the graphics side.
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Better graphics then at e3! that great. they were great as they were but better is great to here.
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better graphics than zelda?im more than happy!
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Mason said:
Hollywood is the GPU which ATI is developing - theyre definitely talking about the graphics side.
Hollywood is the GPU which ATI is developing - theyre definitely talking about the graphics side.
:O Good news then
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When you think about it, a console with a gpu with a codename such as "hollywood" would have great graphics. This is great news and will hit Ps3 and x360 fans right in the face.
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Well good, because I really wasn't impressed with the graphics at E3. They all would've been great GC games, but not very next gen. I didn't worry too much because it's early in the console's life (heck, to my knowledge, there's still a lot of third parties who haven't unlocked as much of the GC's power as they could've). Red Steel graphics are certainly tolerable, but I think that should be the standard for the next gen.
I mean, have you seen some of the Xbox360's stuff? There's some boxing game I saw at walmart that my brother was playing, I thought he was watching a cinematic until I looked down and he was pressing buttons. It had dramatic camera angles and such too, so it looked cinematicish. Then again, for a boxhing game, all you have to worry a lot about is the fighters and the ring. So whatever...I don't even know what my point was anymore..
I mean, have you seen some of the Xbox360's stuff? There's some boxing game I saw at walmart that my brother was playing, I thought he was watching a cinematic until I looked down and he was pressing buttons. It had dramatic camera angles and such too, so it looked cinematicish. Then again, for a boxhing game, all you have to worry a lot about is the fighters and the ring. So whatever...I don't even know what my point was anymore..
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Haha TAG, I've seen the boxing game you're talking about and it does look amazing. I also had to do a double take before realising it wasn't actually 'real'.
What we need to remember here is that not everyone is a faithful Ninty fan and that, by not offering top notch graphics they may be pushing away as many new players as they are gaining with their gameplay push. I'm talking from a sales and success point of view and not a personal one...
What we need to remember here is that not everyone is a faithful Ninty fan and that, by not offering top notch graphics they may be pushing away as many new players as they are gaining with their gameplay push. I'm talking from a sales and success point of view and not a personal one...
Erm... yeh.
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Am I the only one here who's abit skeptical and worried about this news post. Yes he said that what we've seen so far is only the beginning but when asked how much better, how much more powerful and actual specifications all he can reply is "I'm really not here to talk about the design specs...
Wait a minute, you are the Senior Public Relations Manager of Consumer Products of the company behind the graphical capabilities of this new console and you aren't here to talk about the graphic chip that YOU designed and manufactured? But you can say [b] "I really don't think that it's about the [specifications]; I think it's about the innovation that it brings to the table
Wait a minute, you are the Senior Public Relations Manager of Consumer Products of the company behind the graphical capabilities of this new console and you aren't here to talk about the graphic chip that YOU designed and manufactured? But you can say [b] "I really don't think that it's about the [specifications]; I think it's about the innovation that it brings to the table
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[quote]Wait a minute, you are the Senior Public Relations Manager of Consumer Products of the company behind the graphical capabilities of this new console and you aren't here to talk about the graphic chip that YOU designed and manufactured? But you can say "I really don't think that it's about the [specifications]; I think it's about the innovation that it brings to the table
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i dont relly care about graphics but if they did improve on them the system might help it....a lot but good graphics or bad graphics im still going to get it and so every thing and how small it is how much things you can do with it that kind of fills up the graphics
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L24 Crawlton
First, if the Wii gpu is faster than the Gamecube's gpu then the Wii will be able to produce better graphics than the Gamecube. Just go out and buy an Ati 9600 gpu and then buy an Ati 9600 XT. The Ati 9600 XT has more capabilities than the 9600.
Secondly, the ATI representative can not speak about the Hollywood gpu because it's a proprietary of Nintendo. It is illegal to reveal Trade secrets. Furthermore, if the patent for displacement mapping is true then the graphics of the Wii will be on par with the other consoles in standard definition.
Link:
http://www.playbomb.com/2005/12/11/124/nintendo-displacement-mapping-patents-discoverec/
Secondly, the ATI representative can not speak about the Hollywood gpu because it's a proprietary of Nintendo. It is illegal to reveal Trade secrets. Furthermore, if the patent for displacement mapping is true then the graphics of the Wii will be on par with the other consoles in standard definition.
Link:
http://www.playbomb.com/2005/12/11/124/nintendo-displacement-mapping-patents-discoverec/
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Just read that...VERY interesting...
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The Hollywood GPU is custom made but it was designed by ATI making it their property and not Nintendo's but say Nintendo did own it, why no come out and say that he prevented by an NDA from discussing the specs?
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