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doik 15.11.2006#26

Negatio said:
Im just counting down to the first unit to get damaged.

Man, you're a fanboy dick aren'tcha?

Guest 15.11.2006#27

OLU1701 said:
You know Oni-ninja was right about people that go out there and buy consoles when they first launch. Theyre just suckers......thats if of course youre going out there to queue up for a Sony or Microsoft manufactured console. At least with Nintendo when they say the words cheap and affordable and worldwide launch youre virtually guaranteed that.

Yes, because the Wii is so cheap. 250 Euro for a machine with the technical specifications of a gamecube 1.5. If there is one console manufacturer who is being a greedy bastard it's Nintendo. I really don't get the people who are first in line for the Wii, like Oni said, just wait a year, maybe two to see if developers really keep supporting and the prices have dropped enough to warrant a purchase.
Oh, and truly great games will be great in two years time too.

OLU1701 15.11.2006#28

On the console front that's not very bad sales for Japan since Sony has only announced 100, 000 consoles for it's home territory until probably next year. I would also expect low games sales due to this console shortage as well.

Although like idiots Sony made ALOT of noise as to how their launch was, unlike Microsoft going to be exclusively worldwide and now they've botched up even worse than their rivals, for a company that has dominated the console market for well over a decade, and still has high quality titles being produced for it's fading gen machine which by the way has sole 100million consoles to date let's not count them out just yet.

Well to tell you the truth all these console companies treat their customers like dirt,none is really better than the other. They promise one thing and then do another or give you onething (eg innovative control )and then take away another (good graphics). They're all out to money so it's better we just derive as much fun from them as possible.

Why thank you BART I can see you read my post and if you notice carefully I was very choosy about the wording I used when praising Nintendo. In reality I'm only giving them this prasie because they're the only one of the three companies giving us a proper worldwide launch and I can pick up Zelda Twilight Princess on day 1. By the way I wrote the book on slanging off Nintendo for some of the really stupid mistakes they make. As much as I love the Wii about 80%, 20% of my mind feels that i'm essentially paying for a Gamecube 1.5 (which I too have dubbed it in the past)with a new remote/wand shaped peripheral for nearly

Nintendo Lad 15.11.2006#29

Oh dear...it doesn't look good does it?

I could understand Microsoft's poor sales in Japan because theyre an American company...but Japan loves Sony almost as much as they love Nintnedo. It does not bode well indeed...

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MC hammered 15.11.2006#30

if you guys are tired of Nintendo Microsoft and Sony watch this space for 15th Jan. An interesting announcement is to be made.

Sounds promising, it isn't just going to be you confessing about being gay is it? Cus we allready know that. Smilie I'm only joking Olu, seriouslly sounds intresting m8.

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Dr_R 15.11.2006#31

It might not look great for Sony based on these numbers, but let's just wait to see how the PS3 launch affects the DS. DS sales (and software sales) could be down as people transfer their interest to PS3.

If the DS is still top of the hardware charts (and software charts) at the end of the week, then Nintendo can have a smug grin plastered all over its face.

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The Croft 15.11.2006#32

It is very likely that it will still be

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the boy who likes to 15.11.2006#33

I was reading on the BBC that the Wii will have 400,000 units available for launch day in Japan. Ok its 3 times as much as PS3's launch, but it isnt that much.

With everyone saying that Wii would have plenty of units available for launch, Im getting pretty worried that Ill be leaving HMV empty handed on 8th December.

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Uberpid 15.11.2006#34

But theres going to be 4million units worldwide though

Ghost-in-the-Snow 15.11.2006#35

I finally got my pre-order notice from GAME (It had gone to the wrong adress...) and they're saying I'm 'gauranteed' a Wii on launch...well...hope so anyway. =D

OLU1701 said:
Oh and if you guys are tired of all things Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony watch this space for 15th Jan. An interesting announcement with regard to an old rival is to be made.:lol Edited on 15.11.2006 14:51 by OLU1701 )

Oh? Sounds intruiging. How do you know? *is curious* They're bringing back the Atari? =D

Agul 15.11.2006#36

-Bart- said:
250 Euro for a machine with the technical specifications of a gamecube 1.5. If there is one console manufacturer who is being a greedy bastard its Nintendo./quote]
And the ignorance keeps rolling on. Gamers really need to get educated before making asinine statements like this. It's gotten tiresome.
OLU1701 said:
I could side branch into how gameplay over graphics is not the ultimate key to winning this gens console war esp. when some of your games look worse than 1st wave N64 games (farcry is just But FFUGGGLYYYY) but well stop here for now.
I disagree. Gameplay is going to be a very, very crucial asset this next gen. It's not the sole deciding factor, but it will be the most prominent.
Comparing Farcry's graphics to first generation N64 games ranks up there in the top 10 exagerations of all time. Wii is capable of much, much better graphics (as we have already scene with quite a few games), but it all comes down to how well developers utilize the system. You can have the most powerful system on the market, but if developers don't properly take advantage of what said system's capable of, it's a waist (about 90% of 3rd party devs did this to poor GC for almost it's entire life span). Not to mention it's misleading. Hopefully Nintendo gets these devs to shape up and history won't repeat itself with Wii. Still, Farcry looks okay graphically IMO. It could be far better, though.

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Darkflame 15.11.2006#37

Sony proved that processing power wasnt important when the dreamcrast didnt even dent them, and when the vastely suppiour Gamecube and Xbox barely made a mark either.

Nintendo is,for the first time, having the least powerfull console because it didnt exactly help them when they were ahead :p

As for the PS3, sales are ok.

Its that software ratio thats worrying.
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James2t3 15.11.2006#38

The sales are ok considering they had 100,000 but i'm wondering what there gonna be doing to supply the market now
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theduffman 16.11.2006#39

um I don't think we can afford to get smug yet... because all the PS3s being supplied are being bought... I guess the real test comes in a couple of months or something when supply improves.

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vectorman06 16.11.2006#40

Yeah for developers for going multi-platform Smilie

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OLU1701 16.11.2006#41

MechaG2 The Wii in terms of hard ware and processing power is a souped up XBox hybrid or if you like has twice the power of the GAmecube but come on man, let's not kid ourselves. Some of the graphics in those launch games suck and i'm not saying it because the console sucks but Ubi-soft and others with some of their games are just porting tripe over from other fading gen. consoles or are blatently using PS2 dev kits to develope some of their games.

Where as games like excite truck, Zelda TP look pretty and Red steel Madden and Rayman Raving RAbbids look fantastic and superior to all high-end Gamecube Titles because they were built from the ground up on Wii and since Wii is essentially an enhanced Gamecube on the hardware front, how dare these stupid lazy developers give us games with graphics less than par with the GC.

I don't care what Nintendo says. Depending on the game or genre graphics are equal to gameplay or a small step behind it but should not be considered as inferior. By the way in the Snes N64 and GC era having a powerful console that could produce cool graphics did not hurt them, it was bad decision making on a hardware front and bad marketing that effected the N64, as was the same with Gamecube.

Wii may not be as powerful as it's competitors but it still can produce great visuals HD or not, so these stupid companies trying to con us by feeding us with visual tripe should go shove it...

Let's just hope that after the launch window, third party developers start to bring out games that equal or surpass the visuals of super mario Galaxy, not to mention finally get to grips with the controller. Smilie

( Edited on 16.11.2006 08:11 by OLU1701 )

Guest 16.11.2006#42

MechaG2 said:
-Bart- said:
250 Euro for a machine with the technical specifications of a gamecube 1.5. If there is one console manufacturer who is being a greedy bastard its Nintendo.
And the ignorance keeps rolling on. Gamers really need to get educated before making asinine statements like this. Its gotten tiresome.
I see nothing wrong in my statement; 250 euro for a console with a game/demo that would probably retail for 30 euro. That's 220 euro(200 if I'm being generous) for a souped up Gamecube indeed, the same price as a gamecube was back when it launched.(but then did have great specifications)
(oh and let's not forget the prices for GBA and DS games eh?)
OLU1701 said:...Lets just hope that after the launch window, third party developers start to bring out games that equal or surpass the visuals of super mario Galaxy, not to mention finally get to grips with the controller.:roller Edited on 16.11.2006 08:11 by OLU1701 )
Let's face it; 95% of developers just aren't going to fully utitlize the potential of a machine on the graphics front because it just takes too much time. You see that with every console built to date. Games like Resident Evil 4 are very rare.

the boy who likes to 16.11.2006#43

Uberpid, re:4 million units. Thats what I had heard. But a article out by the BBC puts the amount of units in Japan to only 400000. If you have the same number available for USA and "other countries" that makes just over 1 million units on launch. Thats a whole 3 million short of what was going around originally.

Does anyone else know what the newest numbers are on units avaialbe at launch?

PS here is the bbc article
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/6150264.stm

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OLU1701 16.11.2006#44

Actually Mech when ign asked Nintendo (or more specifically Miyamoto-san) why Wii had been designed to be only so powerful and so similar to gamecube in terms of architecture, he commented that the reason being was to enable developers to get to grips with Wii's hardware and not only reduce production lead time and developement costs but to produce high quality games with fantastic looking visuals from day one rather for gamers to have to wait until around midway through the console's lifespan before the consoles true abilites are realised.

Most developers have seconded that controller aside, Wii's hardware is easy to get to grips with and when developing a game from the ground up, they've been able to get some serious potential out of the Wii in terms of visuals (rayman, redsteel, madden amongst others are a testimony to that) hence the only real challenge has been the programming the awesome wiimote.

However in this launch as I said before it seems as if a few lazy developers are just hashing over crap looking ports of the fading gen. unto Wii for launch, charging full price and just reprogramming the controls for Wii functionality. Even alot of games Journalists are ticked off at this seemingly "new" trend. Hopefully it'll die out after the pressure of releasing games within the launch window dies down.

Martin_ 16.11.2006#45

Console launches are for chumps. That's all console launches (the Wii is no exception). Next Christmas will be Wii-time for me (why'd Nintendo have to give their console such a crap name? :lol Smilie . By then Nintendo will undoubtedly have their backs against the wall (in Europe, at least), and they'll have to price their console abit more competitively. There'll also be a decent range of good games by then. Plus any hardware bugs will have been ironed out.

The Croft 16.11.2006#46

Hardware bugs being ironed out on the Wii, you sure you aren't talking about the 360 which are still breaking nearly a year on the market and if anyone has their back againast the wall it is MS only 4.5m units sold that is terrible.

Mike Gee of iZINE said, "...The Verve, as he [Richard Ashcroft] promised, had become the greatest band in the world. Most of the critics agreed with him. Most paid due homage. The Verve were no longer the question mark or the clich�. They were the statement and the definition."

Martin_ 16.11.2006#47

Mr.Ashcroft said:
Hardware bugs being ironed out on the Wii, you sure you arent talking about the 360 which are still breaking nearly a year on the market and if anyone has their back againast the wall it is MS only 4.5m units sold that is terrible.

I'm talking about all consoles, not having a pathetic dig at one in particular XxX

rowen_wind 16.11.2006#48

I think I'll wiat to see how quickly my PS2 breaks before I think about how long it'll take a PS3 to break. Then maybe I'll use the broken parts to make something better, like and NES ^_^

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Fenton 16.11.2006#49

Are you sure the PS3 came out?:-p

Martin_ 16.11.2006#50

rowen_wind said:
I think Ill wiat to see how quickly my PS2 breaks before I think about how long itll take a PS3 to break. Then maybe Ill use the broken parts to make something better, like and NES ^_^

Yeah, I really don't have any hopes for any kind of longevity with the early PS3 units. After two/three years (probably closer to three), it'll have some minor overhaul, and will be more efficiant/reliable as a result.

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