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OLU1701 01.02.2007#51

Nintendo added their two cents on the allegations of console shortages due to low shipments as "absolutely inaccurate".

I'm confused. For what console was this comment in reference to ???

Anyway..... I wouldn't consider Wii to be an impulse buy just as much as I wouldn't rule out Sony winning this gen's console war either because it's too early to comment on such.
Wii may not have fantastic games but they have ok ones.
Wii sports is awesome (Wiiplay is lame) Redsteel in my opinion is pretty cool and Twilight Princess, Gamecube port or not, rocks on the Wii. Sonic (wildfire) (which is looking great at the moment)is still on the way and whether or not Smash Bros is a novelty mascot based fighting game, it's still fun and it's on it's way soon....Metroid should be here either by Easter or at the end of the year. I'm a huge Metroid fan and I'm in awe of the work that Retro studios have put into one of my top 3 Nintendo franchises. Then equally or possibly more importantly than even Corruption is the launch of Super Mario Galaxy. Between also these hit will be filler games such as Mortal Kombat and Driver 3 which are both looking okish and all of these is coming out this year.

So Sony shouldn't start hating on Nintendo just because the DS is trouncing the PSP and at PRESENT Wii is outpacing the PS3. CAcca happens.Things can change and NIntendo knows that all too well about what it means to go from being Top dog to the Underdog Smilie

( Edited on 01.02.2007 10:41 by OLU1701 )

Darkflame 01.02.2007#52

Anyone that doesn't find WiiSports enjoyable has no soul.

I completely utterly hate sports games, yet find it brilliant.
(just like I hate FPS, yet loved Golden Eye).

Some games are so good they transcend their genre and become enjoyable for everyone.

Also, make no mistake thinking WiiSports is shallow because its simple.
You have a finer degree of controll over your shots then any tennis game in existance.
If your good, that is.

WiiSports is something you can shortly each day for a long time, as I have since the Wii came out.

The Wii is easily worth it for whats already out alone, the out-the-box features warent at least

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Darkflame 01.02.2007#53

Also, I think its funny argueing over fighting games as being shallow or not.

They are all shallow, the genra is in a rut.
Its all about button-combos. Sure, some are more advanced about it, some require timeing, some have counter moves.
But its still pretty much the same universaly, only with different skins.

I just hope this generation sees some fighting games with radicaly different controlls and idealogys.

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The Croft 01.02.2007#54

Jacob4000 said:
Its a good thing you put down a lot of to mes, or Id have jumped on you. The biggest reason I will get a Wii is Super Smash Bros Brawl. Hardly a novelty IMO. The game possesses more depth than youd think with hundreds of trophies to collect, and insane stat tracking among other things. Add an online mode and I am salivating. Plus, it nails without a doubt the most important factor for a game, its fun.( Edited on 01.02.2007 02:36 by Jacob4000 )

Smash Bros for me is the only good fighter out there VF, Soul Calibur, Tekken all pure muck, bore me stupid. Smash Bros is just insane fun, and an online mode is just has me like Jacob foaming senseless. I think i easily clocked well over 500 hours on it.

Sorry Oni people do buy consoles for the Wii games I have just stated, SSBM sold 6m units on the CUBE, says it all.

Though i respect your decision, Smash bros is definitely a marmite title, you either love it or hate it.

xeke said:
If smash brothers was that simple then I wouldnt be able to completely pound people who think theyre good with it.

You haven't played the big dog yet :cooldude:

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Martin_ 01.02.2007#55

Yeah, it's just one of those things mate. People on the whole do, but I don't, and quite a few people have the same view of recent Nintendo games as me. Also, it's sort of unfair to mention how much Smash Bros. sold on 'Cube. Of course it sold lots, if you wanted a fighting game in GC, the pickings were really fucking slim. It was basically either Soul Calibur 2, or Smash Bros. (unless you're one of those freaks that thinks Mortal Kombat isn't shit).

I can see how VF would bore you (I never mentioned Tekken or Soul Calibur), it doesn't lend itself towards easy pickup-and-play for people who are new to it. I remember first getting VF3 for my Dreamcast and thinking it was a pile of wank, until I started to really put some hours in. You only get out of VF what you put in, which can be seen as counter-productive for a game I suppose, but I (and many others) love it.

It's the deepest fighting game there is. Takes years to master. Watching two VF pros fight each other is brilliant. It's like a cake with a million layers. Smash Bros. is just simple fun. I'd happily play it in a party situation, but as far as single-player is concerned, I want something that provides a challenge and a steep learning curve.

If anyone's got a PS2, I highly recommend VF4. And VF5 is coming to X360 now! Win!

( Edited on 01.02.2007 17:11 by Oni )

knighty 01.02.2007#56

You obviously suck at SSBM Oni. Smilie I suck, but the wealth of stuff you can do beats the shit out of any fighting game, and it's actually a fighting game you can always win if you have skill.

Martin_ 01.02.2007#57

There's a wealth of stuff to do in VF, and it's the ultimate anti-button-bashing fighting game. You cannot beat a skilled VF player by button-bashing. I realise most of you are going to be huge SSBM fans, but I'm not budging. I know my fighting games very well. VF is the deepest. Go on any fighting game website and you'll be told the same.

Cheesing It Up 01.02.2007#58

SSBM's fighting system seems pretty basic if you ask me. Almost every other fighting game is deeper. (I'm not knocking SSBM though, it's a very good game Smilie )

J4K 01.02.2007#59

I don't think anywhere is trying to say Smash Bros is deeper than VF. I just think we're saying it is more fun. And in Jacob's personnel book, that makes it the better game. Smilie

...Besides, if you've really been beaten by a newb who was just button mashing, maybe Knighty is right about you. Smilie

Martin_ 01.02.2007#60

I bet you haven't even played a recent VF. You are not in a position to judge properly.

J4K 01.02.2007#61

Oni-Ninja said:
I bet you havent even played a recent VF. You are not in a position to judge properly.

How much you want to bet? Smilie

I'll admit I haven't played one in a while, last time was years ago on the PS2. I just didn't have fun with it, really. And I've always enjoyed the Tekkens, but Smash has always taken the throne for sheer fun. But hey, like I said, that's my opinion. Smilie

JoeBTW 01.02.2007#62

Hulkamania said:
Kellerman said:I wouldnt go on a Nintendo website for no reason. I personally think Nintendo have fucked up a bit with the Wii. Its an impulse purchase in the way that if u saw one in stock somewhere, because theyre so hard to come by u might just buy it. But then you think about it, it has one good game at the moment, and thats a gamecube game.
All launchs are like that though the Wii has better titles at launch than the 360 did, the 360 only had Perfect Dark, which sux balls as Slydevil would say.
Slydevil said:I have a Wii, and it sux balls.....and it will sux balls until Galaxy comes out.
Does Excite Truck, Wario Ware, Mario Strikers, Battalion wars, Metroid Prime and Smash Bros. not appeal to you.( Edited on 01.02.2007 00:48 by Hulkamania )

You talk out of your arse. Are you forgetting COD2? which loads of people still play. Amped3 was also pretty good and Kameo wasn't too bad. Within about a month GRAW was also out, which is still one of the best 360 games.

The Croft 01.02.2007#63

Kellerman said:
Hulkamania said:
Kellerman said:I wouldnt go on a Nintendo website for no reason. I personally think Nintendo have fucked up a bit with the Wii. Its an impulse purchase in the way that if u saw one in stock somewhere, because theyre so hard to come by u might just buy it. But then you think about it, it has one good game at the moment, and thats a gamecube game.
All launchs are like that though the Wii has better titles at launch than the 360 did, the 360 only had Perfect Dark, which sux balls as Slydevil would say.
Slydevil said:I have a Wii, and it sux balls.....and it will sux balls until Galaxy comes out.
Does Excite Truck, Wario Ware, Mario Strikers, Battalion wars, Metroid Prime and Smash Bros. not appeal to you.( Edited on 01.02.2007 00:48 by Hulkamania )
You talk out of your arse. Are you forgetting COD2? which loads of people still play. Amped3 was also pretty good and Kameo wasnt too bad. Within about a month GRAW was also out, which is still one of the best 360 games.

Call of Duty 2 pretty good admittedly, Kameo = wank, Amped 3 very average.

GRAW however is awesome, however it is was released on March 10th over 3months after the 360 launched, hardly a month.

Mike Gee of iZINE said, "...The Verve, as he [Richard Ashcroft] promised, had become the greatest band in the world. Most of the critics agreed with him. Most paid due homage. The Verve were no longer the question mark or the clich�. They were the statement and the definition."

JoeBTW 01.02.2007#64

Ok, Didnt realise it was that long. But i doubt the Wii will have a game that is as good as GRAW (apart from Zelda) even in 3 months time.

The Croft 01.02.2007#65

Kellerman said:
Ok, Didnt realise it was that long. But i doubt the Wii will have a game that is as good as GRAW (apart from Zelda) even in 3 months time.

I doubt it as well.

Mike Gee of iZINE said, "...The Verve, as he [Richard Ashcroft] promised, had become the greatest band in the world. Most of the critics agreed with him. Most paid due homage. The Verve were no longer the question mark or the clich�. They were the statement and the definition."

JoeBTW 01.02.2007#66

So, atm u can get a premium 360 with 2 games (gow and rainbow six vegas) for

J4K 01.02.2007#67

Kellerman said:
So, atm u can get a premium 360 with 2 games (gow and rainbow six vegas) for

JoeBTW 01.02.2007#68

Jacob4000 said:
Kellerman said:So, atm u can get a premium 360 with 2 games (gow and rainbow six vegas) for

knighty 01.02.2007#69

The 360 represents the far better buy right now. I do not doubt that the Wii will come up soon (I bought one on launch ya know) but right now, the 360 is easily the best system. If you "don't like" GoW I have to doubt that you've even played it...

JoeBTW 01.02.2007#70

Haha, Jacob PWNED once again!

Megadanxzero 01.02.2007#71

VF3tb was great, but I wouldn't say it was the deepest fighting game I've played... Certainly better than Soul Calibur though. That was literally just a case of pressing buttons as fast as possible

Plus I don't think any other game lets you play as an old drunk guy

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Martin_ 01.02.2007#72

VF4 took the series to a whole new level of excellence. You must remember that while VF3 launched in 1999 with the Dreamcast, the game originally came out in '96 in the arcades. So by the time it hit Dreamcast, it had already aged significantly. VF4 was truly a real step up. VF5 looks to be more of a refinement than another big step up, but seeing as VF4 was already an amazing game, that's enough (though I'd expect another big leap with VF6).

I wouldn't expect VF3 to be the deepest fighter you've ever played. VF4 is certainly up there, though, and VF5 really is the best 3D fighting game out there in terms of depth and mastery. The reason I specified '3D' is because there will always be something enchanting about 2D fighters. Street Fighter III also has real depth, it's just different. Where VF5 emphasizes realism, Street Fighter III emphasizes speed and ferocity. Both are different enough to warrant a place in your collection.

I'm also a fan of the DOA series (which for me falls into the same kind of bracket as SSBM). I like the characters, the lush visuals, and the tits. It's got depth, but some is sacrificed due to the 'lottery' of the counter-attack system. Soul Calibur was great I thought, but the series took a slightly bad turn with SCII, and I must admit that I have yet to play SCIII.

VF is more of a thinking-man's fighting game than any other. I do hope that the A.I. mode from VF4 returns for VF5 ^_^

J4K 01.02.2007#73

knighty said:
The 360 represents the far better buy right now. I do not doubt that the Wii will come up soon (I bought one on launch ya know) but right now, the 360 is easily the best system. If you dont like GoW I have to doubt that youve even played it...

I really don't care about Gears of War, honestly. Sure it looks cool and all, but I don't fancy spending $400 for just one game, and the rest of the lineup just doesn't appeal to me, especially compared with what Nintendo has lined up for the year.

As for value, I suppose the 360 is the better deal for the technology, but that isn't why I buy a system. I buy it for the fun, which is why Nintendo generally gets my money, though I'm not saying a 360 isn't fun. Heck, I'd like to get one eventually.

Haha, Jacob PWNED once again!

You are just looking for pathetic ways to insult me lately, with no reason or provocation, aren't you? No matter, whatever makes you feel good about yourself. Smilie

Megadanxzero 01.02.2007#74

Oh God I hate DOA... Admittedly I only played a bit of DOA Ultimate on the Xbox, but I assume it was (as the name suggests) the ultimate version of it, and I found it horrifically slow and boring... If I wanted the breasts I'd just get DOA Xtreme 2...

I probably will Smilie

And I still love Street fighter too... When I finally got my Dreamcast working again I played Alpha 3 for hours... I really want to find SF3: 3rd Strike too, it looks awesome

Still a proud member of the 'omfg amazing water in games' society

Modplan Man 02.02.2007#75

The problem is you're all comparing Wii, a system that has been out for still less than 2 months, to a system that's been out for at least over a year.

Another factor is the wait and see approach developers took becasue of the controller, meaning some are only just starting development for the console - lately there have been many job offers posted u on sites for many companies now by the looks of it beginning Wii projects.

And, once again, hardly anyone is looking to third party titles on Wii, all I keep seeing is people mentioning 1st party all the itme, like I said above, no wonder developers whine and bitch, so far it seems to be true. There are many games coming to Wii, more than you all think, jst check the list I made above, many of them promising, whether they be ports/wiimakes or originals - you can't say godfather doesn't look promising, and the amount of timse you hear whether in interviews or random references thrown in by teasing journalists to new as of yet unannounced projects on Wii from many developers.

Many of you are disregarding so many games on the system that you might actually enjoy, and again just start to mention MP:3 or Mario for the millionth times - open your fucking eyes.

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