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on 07.05.2007 at 16:47 User Icon Posted by Adam Riley (jesusraz)
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Considering UK team Rare, developer of the seminal FPS GoldenEye 007, was sold to Microsoft from Nintendo and EA lost the Bond license to Activision recently, chances of the classic appearing on Virtual Console seemed slim-to-none.

But, when asked about the possibility of the James Bond shooter appearing on Nintendo's Virtual Console and/or Microsoft's XBLA, the answer given was "GoldenEye is caught up in a convoluted web of rights the likes of which would make the Weaver from Perdido Street Station jealous. That doesn't mean it won't happen, just that a lot of people with a lot of different perspectives are involved."

However, that answer hardly sheds any new light on what we already knew. Adding to this, a question was asked about other Rare games from Nintendo systems appearing on the Wii's retro service, and the response was:

"This is where we finally edge into territory that could see Scribes neutron bombed from management level. The only Rare-developed title on Virtual Console right now is the original Donkey Kong Country, and unofficially there's a strong likelihood that its sequels will follow. But the Donkey Kong series of games is a Nintendo-owned franchise starring an established Nintendo character, whereas something like Banjo isn't (and even Diddy Kong Racing is less clear-cut), so it's nowhere near as easy to call. Especially when you also consider the existence of Xbox Live Arcade. So right now, the best answer we can offer (for either download service) is 'it's possible'."


To read the full Scribes edition (from 28th February, 2007), just follow this link.

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I read elsewhere that Rare will not allow any of it's IPs on VC. XBL will get games like Banjo.
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Smilie Well duh we all kinda knew that we were gonna get DKC! But anyway its nice to hear that it is confirmed! Smilie
So there is a chance of Goldeneye being on VC Smilie lets hope they find a way to make it possible! Smilie



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GoldenEye has aged really badly I wouldn't get it even if it did come out on VC.
Still it's a shame though, Rares games represents a good chunk of N64 games people liked.


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Yeah. I agree with you Blade (on both things). Even Perfect Dark is starting to age. The Banjo-Kazooie games are pretty timeless, though. Then of course, there's Conker's BAD FUR DAY! ^_^
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Oni, where did you read that? All I've ever heard is 'could happen, but probably won't'.


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Joystique or somewhere. It was a post on another forum like yours, linking to a bit of news. Makes sense too. Why would Microsoft allow the enemy to sell games it owns?
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Yeah. I agree with you Blade (on both things). Even Perfect Dark is starting to age. The Banjo-Kazooie games are pretty timeless, though. Then of course, theres Conkers BAD FUR DAY! ^_^


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Well, either way, I loved GoldenEye. Back in the day, that's all my friends and I would play. I'd definitely get it if it made it to the VC, I just love it so much!
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Blade2t3 said:
Oni-Ninja said:Yeah. I agree with you Blade (on both things). Even Perfect Dark is starting to age. The Banjo-Kazooie games are pretty timeless, though. Then of course, theres Conkers BAD FUR DAY! ^_^
Recently got Conker on Xbox very funny game, surprised it was more censored in the xbox version though the poo song isnt as funny Smilie.


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Oni-Ninja said:
I read elsewhere that Rare will not allow any of its IPs on VC. XBL will get games like Banjo.


Nintendo own the code for the games, but Rare own the legal copyrights and whatnot. Therefore, Microsoft/Rare will need permission from Nintendo to put the old games on the VC. Remakes/Sequels can be done without permission.

I wouldn't be suprised if Rare didn't have any say whatsoever in regards to letting GoldenEye on the VC.

For other Rare N64 games, perhaps they could appear on both VC and Live Arcade...either way, it's essensially easy money for both.

Still...at least we'll probably get DK64.
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DJcube said:
[Nintendo own the code for the games, but Rare own the legal copyrights and whatnot. Therefore, Microsoft/Rare will need permission from Nintendo to put the old games on the VC. Remakes/Sequels can be done without permission.


That wouldn't be the case at all. Rare IPs (such as Banjo-Kazooie) are owned wholly by Rare. The only thing they would probably have to do, is remove/altar the intro screens where the N64 cube and other assorted Nintendo logos appear.

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I wouldnt be suprised if Rare didnt have any say whatsoever in regards to letting GoldenEye on the VC.


Yeah, because it's not their IP or anything. I think they might have some say, because they did make it, but I'm not sure. They would have to give permission for their logos to be used, though. However, those could just be removed I suppose.

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For other Rare N64 games, perhaps they could appear on both VC and Live Arcade...either way, its essensially easy money for both.Still...at least well probably get DK64.


It's possible. It's all down to whether MS will allow them on VC though, which is doubtful. Remember, it's also a major coup for XBL, to most of the best N64 games.
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.....I really do hope they bring Conker over - I never got all the way thru!

...I might be better off buying a 64 and hunting the games down.

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Well if Micro$oft wont allow those games to be on VC why would Nintendo let those games be on XBL???



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Because they aren't Nintendo's games to allow in the first place.
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The chances of them appearing on Xbox Live Arcade are slim, because it would require either a complete recording OR an N64 emulation.

The best we can hope for is for Nintendo/Microsoft to strike a deal for them to be on both systems.

In fact, even changing GoldenEye is probably out the question,seeing as that would technicaly make it a new game, and Sony owns the Bond IP!
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I would be amazed if Rare released GoldenEye on the VC since MS owns Rare. I agree that GoldenEye has aged poorly but the cool thing about the Live Arcade (and the reason games are slow to come out for it) is that every game has to be upgraded to be HD compatible which usually means optional updated graphics. But the biggest bonus is they usually have online support added such as XBLA titles like Doom and Ninja Turtles Arcade which allows four players over Live to play together. IF GoldenEye is released with 4-8 player online multiplayer over Live I would definetly purchase this title.

I am not saying one service is better than the other but I would expect GoldenEye to only come out on XBLA. Especially with the latest Rare releases that had very disapointing sales. GoldenEye might be a good way to get some extra change along with improve their reputation a little.
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I agree. Old games on XBL are far better than what you get on the VC.
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Oni-Ninja said:Yeah. I agree with you Blade (on both things). Even Perfect Dark is starting to age. The Banjo-Kazooie games are pretty timeless, though. Then of course, theres Conkers BAD FUR DAY! ^_^
Recently got Conker on Xbox very funny game, surprised it was more censored in the xbox version though the poo song isnt as funny Smilie.


I <3 that game too, so have a star. Smilie



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