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MattEvansC3 on 20.06.2005 at 23:39#26

But if you were on an affected server, which one would you move to? Unless you checked every spanish/finnish/russian/etc. forum you wouldn't know.

The complaints have been in the forums for well over five months, Blizzard's GMs have posted in such topics, they know which servers are having language problems. When the menu suggests you a server based on your language, they are suggesting servers HOSTILE to your chosen language.

I can no longer print out the part of the EULA as the Battlegrounds patch comes with the updated EULA but at the time the complaints were being made it was stated in the EULA, the PUBLIC messages had to be in the language designated by ther server

"Public We consider language to be public when said in the "General" and "Trade" channels as well as with the "yell" command and the

Matthew Evans < Writer :: Moderator :: King of Impartiality :: Lord of the 15min Thread > As the wind blows the sand to cover the camel's tracks so does time move to cover the Lord's.
Rejoice for the Lord will taketh his quarter and give much back to his followers.

Arkyris on 21.06.2005 at 00:02#27

I never said the problem didn't exist. What I am saying is that it's not a big enough problem for me to actively criticise Blizzard, or to not recommend the game to a prospective player.

When the menu suggests you a server based on your language, they are suggesting servers HOSTILE to your chosen language.

That's a program based problem though. The servers are still officially flagged as English. It's a program, it can't tell the difference. They may, or may not change the programming for the European version. As I said before, to change these servers from English to another language will ostrcize a community, either the English, or the un-official servers.

These websites were inciting people to break a EULA that they all had to agree to before character creation. Inciting people to cause a crime is legally enough to have a cease and desist order placed.

Depends on the legal loopholes. It is illegal to intice someone to break the law. Though is it illegal to intice someone to break a contract? A legal binding contract is only between two parties. A third party cannot be held accountable for the actions of either of the two parties involved. Well, that's my understanding.

EULA's were found null and void in courtrooms not to long ago.

We did, we named and shamed the guys doing it, we brought it to the attention of the GMs. In the forums we had the GMs agree with us. Blizzard's version of taking this matter "seriously" was to not only tell people that it wouldn't be enforced but to remove that section from the EULA altogether allowing those that had broken the EULA to continue disrupting other people's games without fear of a comeback from Blizzard.

Unless we have a different definition of abuse this is the biggest problem I see. I meant abuse as in they are swearing at you, and/or calling you derogatory names or saying derogatory comments.

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I never said the problem didn't exist. What I am saying is that it's not a big enough problem for me to actively criticise Blizzard, or to not recommend the game to a prospective player.

[quote] When the menu suggests you a server based on your language, they are suggesting servers HOSTILE to your chosen language. [/quote]
That's a program based problem though. The servers are still officially flagged as English. It's a program, it can't tell the difference. They may, or may not change the programming for the European version. As I said before, to change these servers from English to another language will ostrcize a community, either the English, or the un-official servers.

[quote]These websites were inciting people to break a EULA that they all had to agree to before character creation. Inciting people to cause a crime is legally enough to have a cease and desist order placed.[/quote]
Depends on the legal loopholes. It is illegal to intice someone to break the law. Though is it illegal to intice someone to break a contract? A legal binding contract is only between two parties. A third party cannot be held accountable for the actions of either of the two parties involved. Well, that's my understanding.

EULA's were found null and void in courtrooms not to long ago.

[quote]We did, we named and shamed the guys doing it, we brought it to the attention of the GMs. In the forums we had the GMs agree with us. Blizzard's version of taking this matter "seriously" was to not only tell people that it wouldn't be enforced but to remove that section from the EULA altogether allowing those that had broken the EULA to continue disrupting other people's games without fear of a comeback from Blizzard.[/quote]
Unless we have a different definition of abuse this is the biggest problem I see. I meant abuse as in they are swearing at you, and/or calling you derogatory names or saying derogatory comments.

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MattEvansC3 on 21.06.2005 at 00:21#28

They were using various forms of abuse but it was all in their own language. Some of the abuse from Spanish players were so bad, when it got posted in the forums for a translation not a single Spanish player translated it, all we got was a small number of the Spanish members asking us and the mods to remove it as it was extremly vulgar, aggressive and dis-tasteful, much of it being about the person's mother and was something they didn't want to see let alone translate.

Matthew Evans < Writer :: Moderator :: King of Impartiality :: Lord of the 15min Thread > As the wind blows the sand to cover the camel's tracks so does time move to cover the Lord's.
Rejoice for the Lord will taketh his quarter and give much back to his followers.

Yoshi1075 on 21.06.2005 at 05:43#29

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The_cackling_idiot on 21.06.2005 at 10:36#30

Free MMOs are usually shit so i don't want to waste my time on them.

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pig on 21.06.2005 at 10:46#31

...it was extremly vulgar, aggressive and dis-tasteful, much of it being about the person's mother and was something they didn't want to see let alone translate

I like to think that I've been on the internet for long enough to have seen how low people are willing to go, but there is seemingly always another tale to show me that people can sink even lower... (Although I realise that textual abuse isn't the worst thing one can experience)

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