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Yes. a 5 point rating plus a distinction mark is the best method. Like on G7.
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I dont mind, I go by the content of the review and not the score alone.
So yeah, Golden Sun 3.
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I agree that the decimal thing is pointless while they could just use percentages instead, but I don't agree that percentages are stupid
Seriously though, are you guys like Goku & Vegeta in DragonBall Z? You're like rivals whos goals are always the same...... It's quite odd
Unless of course you're just siamese twins, that would explain my whole life. Maybe...
By the way, just thought you outta know that my body weight in KG is the meaning of life, which means I'm automatically better than you.
Seriously though, are you guys like Goku & Vegeta in DragonBall Z? You're like rivals whos goals are always the same...... It's quite odd
Unless of course you're just siamese twins, that would explain my whole life. Maybe...
By the way, just thought you outta know that my body weight in KG is the meaning of life, which means I'm automatically better than you.

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I would just stick to out of 100 scores as this is the most in depth scoreing system
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Thats just percentages without the %.
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I like the out of 10 but yeah i'll read the review aswell if i'm interested in picking up the game.
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I think those of you saying its impossible to "score" a game with that much accuracy are kind of missing the point. Its not that a game that recieves a 9.8 is a "98% perfect" game. However, if a reviewer has a few games, they're all around the same level, but you need to distinguish between a few of them to accurately communicate your preferences in numerical form, then by being able to give one a 9.3, one a 9.5 etc you are able to show that. It's kind of like diving competitions etc- someone who gets a "10" (or an "8" or whatever the highest mark is), is not necessarily perfect, however, as a general standard, they merit that score. The person who gets a 9.9 is slightly worse than that, hence the extra measure.
The problem is that obviously not all reviewers have the same opinion, even within the same publication, so it gets a bit confusing. An out of 5 system would still be far worse- it would screw up the ability of reviewers to indicate their preference by a significant margin. All I know is that I don't buy most games that score 70%ish for a good reason, and I do buy a lot of games that score 80%-90%.
Anyway, if you don't like the current system, just do a lil' simple maths.
The problem is that obviously not all reviewers have the same opinion, even within the same publication, so it gets a bit confusing. An out of 5 system would still be far worse- it would screw up the ability of reviewers to indicate their preference by a significant margin. All I know is that I don't buy most games that score 70%ish for a good reason, and I do buy a lot of games that score 80%-90%.
Anyway, if you don't like the current system, just do a lil' simple maths.

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It shouldn't be about condensing a review into one, final, number, anyway.
(..and for the record, grumbler's right about the G7 scoring system.
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(..and for the record, grumbler's right about the G7 scoring system.
So yeah, Golden Sun 3.
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I wouldn't have touched ChibiRobo with a long pole stick thing if I hadn't have read the ONM review!
You like the 3D Sonic games but you don't like Chibi Robo? You must have the worst taste ever.
( Edited on 19.11.2006 18:17 by Cleetus )
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Add pokemon into the mix and you have cheesey japtacular fun!
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GR781 said:
However, if a reviewer has a few games, theyre all around the same level, but you need to distinguish between a few of them to accurately communicate your preferences in numerical form, then by being able to give one a 9.3, one a 9.5 etc you are able to show that. Its kind of like diving competitions etc- someone who gets a 10 (or an 8 or whatever the highest mark is), is not necessarily perfect, however, as a general standard, they merit that score. The person who gets a 9.9 is slightly worse than that, hence the extra measure.
However, if a reviewer has a few games, theyre all around the same level, but you need to distinguish between a few of them to accurately communicate your preferences in numerical form, then by being able to give one a 9.3, one a 9.5 etc you are able to show that. Its kind of like diving competitions etc- someone who gets a 10 (or an 8 or whatever the highest mark is), is not necessarily perfect, however, as a general standard, they merit that score. The person who gets a 9.9 is slightly worse than that, hence the extra measure.
Do they, though? Thinking that assumes that one needs a score which is the exact measure of a game's worth. Which is obviously rubbish. A score is for that particular game, it's sole purpose isn't to distinguish between that game, and another game of the same score. That's up to the person. "Two 4/5 games, but I'd like that one better, based upon the actual review, and my personal preferances". It's not like it'd be hard. Sometimes, I think sites/mags underestimate people's cognitive abilities...
GR781 said:
The problem is that obviously not all reviewers have the same opinion, even within the same publication, so it gets a bit confusing. An out of 5 system would still be far worse- it would screw up the ability of reviewers to indicate their preference by a significant margin. All I know is that I dont buy most games that score 70%ish for a good reason, and I do buy a lot of games that score 80%-90%. Anyway, if you dont like the current system, just do a lil simple maths.
The problem is that obviously not all reviewers have the same opinion, even within the same publication, so it gets a bit confusing. An out of 5 system would still be far worse- it would screw up the ability of reviewers to indicate their preference by a significant margin. All I know is that I dont buy most games that score 70%ish for a good reason, and I do buy a lot of games that score 80%-90%. Anyway, if you dont like the current system, just do a lil simple maths.
Why should I do maths? I don't see games as percentages. You obviously do. You say that it's do differentiate one game from another. But how can that really be so? Please give a satisfactory reason why a game might get .4 more or less than any other. You just can't rate games like that. It's absurd. It's so contradictory, aswell. It's like trying to be
So yeah, Golden Sun 3.
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Fray Bentos said:
You like the 3D Sonic games but you dont like Chibi Robo? You must have the worst taste ever.
I wouldnt have touched ChibiRobo with a long pole stick thing if I hadnt have read the ONM review!
I like Sonic games because I like Sonic & I like them, I can't explain why, I just like them. As for ChibiRobo, if I hadn't read the review I wouldn't have gotten it, I seriously couldn't have known it was good if it weren't for that, it just looked plain weird at first.
All my friends still think ChibiRobo looks weird, they havn't played it, mind.
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SuperLink said:
You like the 3D Sonic games but you dont like Chibi Robo? You must have the worst taste ever.
Fray Bentos said:[quote]I wouldnt have touched ChibiRobo with a long pole stick thing if I hadnt have read the ONM review!
So you did like it?
It's going to be shit and you jolly well know it.
So yeah, Golden Sun 3.
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I'm a fan of the "/5" system too and G7's take on it is a beautiful thing. I am also partial to a quick +'s and -'s box too though... But the review is far more important than the score anyway.
( Edited on 19.11.2006 19:04 by Jambo )
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Oni, I think your missing the point GR raised.
If you don't like detailed scores then you can ignore them/transform them into a rough guide in your head and leave the detailed bits for people who care to argue about it.
I don't see why simplifying scores would help when there are people who do like percentages/decimals, leaving things as they are surely gives everyone what they want?
Fine, so you ignore the extra points and take away the general consensus that this is a great game. I can't see the problem?
This is where reading the review comes in handy, something you yourself say more people should focus on, each reviwer will have his or her reasons for the score given - it could be anything, it's impossible to answer that question generaly.
If you don't like detailed scores then you can ignore them/transform them into a rough guide in your head and leave the detailed bits for people who care to argue about it.
I don't see why simplifying scores would help when there are people who do like percentages/decimals, leaving things as they are surely gives everyone what they want?
As far as I'm concerned, the difference between 8.9, and 9.2 (basically 89% and 92% This is a smilie) is nothing. Nothing more than the rediculous musings of an up him/herself reviewer.
Fine, so you ignore the extra points and take away the general consensus that this is a great game. I can't see the problem?
Please give a satisfactory reason why a game might get .4 more or less than any other.
This is where reading the review comes in handy, something you yourself say more people should focus on, each reviwer will have his or her reasons for the score given - it could be anything, it's impossible to answer that question generaly.
( Edited on 19.11.2006 19:17 by spydarlee )
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YOU FUCKING NEED A HIGH ACCURACY FOR COMPARING GAMES.
Jesus christ, I thought I made that pretty clear in the last topic as has GR781 here. I don't think anyone disputes that you can't decide a game is 1% better better than another, but you CAN distinguish that it is better. With a large number of games, you need some way or comparing them to each other. a 5 star rating system DOES NOT DO THAT. If you think it does you are WRONG. As whisky/whatever his name is now (
) said, that would mean something like killzone and halo got the same score. Can you really not see how you are wrong that 5 stars is enough?
Jesus christ, I thought I made that pretty clear in the last topic as has GR781 here. I don't think anyone disputes that you can't decide a game is 1% better better than another, but you CAN distinguish that it is better. With a large number of games, you need some way or comparing them to each other. a 5 star rating system DOES NOT DO THAT. If you think it does you are WRONG. As whisky/whatever his name is now (
) said, that would mean something like killzone and halo got the same score. Can you really not see how you are wrong that 5 stars is enough?Bored? Take my advice and have a wank.
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spydarlee said:
Oni, I think your missing the point GR raised.If you dont like detailed scores then you can ignore them/transform them into a rough guide in your head and leave the detailed bits for people who care to argue about it.I dont see why simplifying scores would help when there are people who do like percentages/decimals, leaving things as they are surely gives everyone what they want?
Oni, I think your missing the point GR raised.If you dont like detailed scores then you can ignore them/transform them into a rough guide in your head and leave the detailed bits for people who care to argue about it.I dont see why simplifying scores would help when there are people who do like percentages/decimals, leaving things as they are surely gives everyone what they want?
Well, no it doesn't. It's pretty clear that alot of us don't want these ridiculous ratings.
spydarlee said:
Fine, so you ignore the extra points and take away the general consensus that this is a great game. I cant see the problem?
As far as Im concerned, the difference between 8.9, and 9.2 (basically 89% and 92% This is a smilie) is nothing. Nothing more than the rediculous musings of an up him/herself reviewer.
The 'problem', is that the current system can be pretty confusing, and non-descript. Sometimes it's downright superfluous.
spydarlee said:
This is where reading the review comes in handy, something you yourself say more people should focus on..( Edited on 19.11.2006 19:15 by spydarlee )
Please give a satisfactory reason why a game might get .4 more or less than any other.
That's the thing though, reading the review usually doesn't uncover the great mystery behind the reviewer's decision to right a game .3 lower than another game (or whatever). It's just bollocks. It's also little help to people. "Oh this game is better 'cause it's .2 better than t'other one!" So, the scores do not serve their purpose as a quick rough guide to a game's quality, but rather a largely irrelevant, and quite suspect exact figure.
I should say that no-one's asking C3 to change it's system. I'm certainly not. I can count on one finger the amount of C3 reviews I've read. I always get my reviews at Gamespot/etc way in advance.
knighty said:
YOU FUCKING NEED A HIGH ACCURACY FOR COMPARING GAMES.Jesus christ, I thought I made that pretty clear in the last topic as has GR781 here. I dont think anyone disputes that you cant decide a game is 1% better better than another, but you CAN distinguish that it is better. With a large number of games, you need some way or comparing them to each other. a 5 star rating system DOES NOT DO THAT. If you think it does you are WRONG. As whisky/whatever his name is now (
) said, that would mean something like killzone and halo got the same score. Can you really not see how you are wrong that 5 stars is enough?
YOU FUCKING NEED A HIGH ACCURACY FOR COMPARING GAMES.Jesus christ, I thought I made that pretty clear in the last topic as has GR781 here. I dont think anyone disputes that you cant decide a game is 1% better better than another, but you CAN distinguish that it is better. With a large number of games, you need some way or comparing them to each other. a 5 star rating system DOES NOT DO THAT. If you think it does you are WRONG. As whisky/whatever his name is now (
) said, that would mean something like killzone and halo got the same score. Can you really not see how you are wrong that 5 stars is enough?Rubbish. It just requires that reviews be consistant across the board. That means, a high-standard of reviewing, rather than an absurd scoring system. Also, name a good site/mag that has scored both Halo and Killzone at 4/5. You can't, because anyone who knows anything about games knows that Killzone is a 3/5 game.
( Edited on 19.11.2006 19:37 by Oni )
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knighty said:
YOU FUCKING NEED A HIGH ACCURACY FOR COMPARING GAMES.Jesus christ, I thought I made that pretty clear in the last topic as has GR781 here. I dont think anyone disputes that you cant decide a game is 1% better better than another, but you CAN distinguish that it is better. With a large number of games, you need some way or comparing them to each other. a 5 star rating system DOES NOT DO THAT. If you think it does you are WRONG. As whisky/whatever his name is now (
) said, that would mean something like killzone and halo got the same score. Can you really not see how you are wrong that 5 stars is enough?
YOU FUCKING NEED A HIGH ACCURACY FOR COMPARING GAMES.Jesus christ, I thought I made that pretty clear in the last topic as has GR781 here. I dont think anyone disputes that you cant decide a game is 1% better better than another, but you CAN distinguish that it is better. With a large number of games, you need some way or comparing them to each other. a 5 star rating system DOES NOT DO THAT. If you think it does you are WRONG. As whisky/whatever his name is now (
) said, that would mean something like killzone and halo got the same score. Can you really not see how you are wrong that 5 stars is enough?I don't use someone else's opinion to decide if one game is better than another. A review is a guide to how good a game is,but shouldn't be precise.
( Edited on 19.11.2006 19:33 by Martin )
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Yes, of course it would be silly to go completely on someones opinion, but I don't think you can deny that reviews are a good way to guae if a review is good enough. Generally, properly written reviews by intelligent people are going to have fairly similar thoughts to you.
To be honest, I have to agree that Gamer7 has an awesome review system.
To be honest, I have to agree that Gamer7 has an awesome review system.
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