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Do you reacon that the world has lost all it morals?

If you look at the media the majority of what they promote is sex, drinking, drug taking, violence.. etc...

Does anybody think that this is the way the world should be or should people have a bit more self respect?

Thoughts please.. but keep it clean.


Smilie

Sarah.

All of the above said:
Do you reacon that the world has lost all it morals?If you look at the media the majority of what they promote is sex, drinking, drug taking, violence.. etc...Does anybody think that this is the way the world should be or should people have a bit more self respect?Thoughts please.. but keep it clean.Smilie

I don't mean to patronise, but 'self respect' and 'morals' etc. is really just cliched vague language invented by ridiculous sensationalist brain-washing media, that in actual fact, has no real meaning.

Hence, I have no idea what you're on about.

( Edited on 18.02.2007 01:18 by Slydevil )

IANC said:
Dude yuor totally awesome. And i won't be killing you anytime soon.

Yeah, unfortunately morality is far to complex for sweeping statements.

Morals change, homosexuality is an obvious example, becoming more and more 'accepted', whereas it was literally against the law 'back in the day'.

A better question would be, 'How have our morals changed?', you could get some actual answers to that, or 'what is morality?', 'do morals really matter?', all that sort of stuff.

But this post says nothing, so I'll wait for some proper responses then perhaps I'll dive back into the debate. Smilie


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Nah humans have always done bad stuff it's just the media concentrating on it and letting you see it.

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No, I don't think sex, or drinking, or drug taking, or dramatic depiction of violence, is immoral at all.

United, you are clearly a christian and what is moral to you, will have clear boundaries set by your religious beliefs. That is not a criticism, is is simply obvious.

The moral compass of any individual is set by many inputs. They are so vast as to not to be worth venturing into. A few obvious ones would be upbringing, peers, the media and yes, religion (itself too vast to dissect due to the many types and interpretations).

The only person who decides what is moral is the individual. The only time that moral is called into question by society is when it breaches the law. Society as a mass decide what is moral when its politicians enact those laws. They do not always get it right though - in both directions.

I am not a christian, yet my many christian friends note that my moral values match and exceed their own morals. The main point of difference is that I respect the individual, whereas organised religion believes in enforced homogenous rules. I believe in momogamy, marriage, I am heterosexual, don't drink alcohol or take drugs. These I set for me and it is what I teach my children. On the other hand, I support abortion on demand, euthanasia and full rights for homosexuals (homosexuality is normal), de-facto relationships, open relationships et cetera. These are not immoral. They are not for me, but why should I inflict my morals on others.

I am yet to see anything government have decreed as legal that I would see as immoral.

Temporarily banned until further notice.

MORALS... Smilie ... Smilie Smilie
Sorry didnt mean to laugh! There is no such thing a morals!

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All of the above said:
Do you reacon that the world has lost all it morals?If you look at the media the majority of what they promote is sex, drinking, drug taking, violence.. etc...Does anybody think that this is the way the world should be or should people have a bit more self respect?Thoughts please.. but keep it clean.Smilie

Go watch Se7en...

tiamat1990 said:
All of the above said:Do you reacon that the world has lost all it morals?If you look at the media the majority of what they promote is sex, drinking, drug taking, violence.. etc...Does anybody think that this is the way the world should be or should people have a bit more self respect?Thoughts please.. but keep it clean.Smilie
Go watch Se7en...

I never liked that. Good movie but a 7 looks nothing like a V. They could have pulled it off if it was replacing a T but not a V...

Gods in His Heaven. Alls right in the World.

It was on TV last night...first time I saw it. Shit is all I can say. I was expecting a big finale like the retard was building up. Didn't get one and what I expected to happen, happened.

If you look at the media the majority of what they promote is sex, drinking, drug taking, violence.. etc...

What the hell is wrong with sex. Everyone does it? Our biological purpose is to have sex and continue our species and replicate our DNA. Why does everyone see it so much like a sin?
Also, as people have mentioned, morality is a very subjective matter. Many different cultures and philosophies have a different outlook on life.

Did I say there was anything wrong with sex? Did I say that it is a bad thing? Its just included with everthing that the media promotes thats all. Does the fact that this is done, help society on a whole? Is it resulting in more teenage pregencies etc...

( Edited on 18.02.2007 12:20 by All of the above )

Sarah.

I heard sex does have something to do with these pregnancies they go on about.

Seriously, the media I don't think promotes them - very often the media tries to either represent the world, or give people technically what they want to see. Yes, you do see shows with lots of sex/violence, but often when the show/book/whatever is fictional then that is a representation of that characters world which they live in, and shouldn't be taken as what is actually going on, and most people probably shouldn't think that's what actually goes on eiter, although often they actually get close to the mark, no matter how ridiculous it seems sometimes.

The fact is we do live in a world where people take drugs, have sex, drink alcohol and generally do bad things. The media shows that, or maybe uses it to get more readers/viewers, although it wouldn't get more readers if people didn't want to read/watch about that kind of thing . People who idealise these things are just gullible idiots, although occasionally the media might play a part in this, overall it's down to how the individual perceives it, and theor own ideas of it.

The media is often used as a scapegoat that promotes these things, but they were there in the first place, they just put it up for everyone to see.

EDIT: Also, in the past, lives were a lot more private, and the media in general were a lot more reserved. Long before the first political scandals, sex stories and Heat magazine these things probably still went on, but many years ago, private lives were private, whether they were famous or not, and papers/tv didn't report that kid of thing, and general public attitudes at the time were that they didn't discuss these things. You could say they reported "real" news, rather than which celebrity has the saggiest tis and the most celulite. Times have changed, now these kinds of things sell papers, so hey report it, TV and film shows it, and music sings about it, and people discuss it. Generally the world is a lot more open and less inhibited, which in many ways is a good thing.

E2: tagline - it's a loss of inhibition and stuffy old restrictions, not a loss of morals that has happened.

( Edited on 18.02.2007 13:04 by Amazingjanet )

When i think of morals i think of 3rd party perspective and the concequences towards the 3rd party. Being at Uni its very clear that men take advantage of drunk women, do these guys have any morals or am i being a "pussy" as some guy called me the other day.

Quite frankly i think guys that take advantage of women whilst drunk, and guys that constantly cheat on their girlfriends (without valid reason) should be shot in the fucking head (likewise women aswell)

Controversially though, i have been put in that situation 3 times in the past 5 months and have had done nothing. Quite annoyingly after talking to select girls about the situation they say they get drunk to give themselves more confidence and to inevitably get laid. Infact most of them have never had sex sober. Quite frankly i think thats fucking stupid. Im not against drunken sex and im not saying that these guys are (rape-ing raping?) them ...infact im not even sure what im trying to say.

Watch Scrubs and you'll learn some morals Smilie

Morals are for babies, gamerz got gunz.

It's going to be shit and you jolly well know it.

I thought this was gonna be another post about Sony when I read 'morals?'. Who needs morals in this day and age? Look at Bush boy, he hasn't got a single brain cel let alone a morale centre, and he's doing just fine and dandy.

Enoch Powell was right, and you know it.

Oblivion lets me be as immoral as I want to be. If somebody looks at me wrong I steal their hat and kill their wife!

It's going to be shit and you jolly well know it.
Guest 18.02.2007#19

Yes the world has lost all it's morals. We just have to wait for the second coming of Jesus to bring the Kingdom of God to those who still have morals. All sinners go to hell.

I think you are joking there, but cannot be quite sure...

Morals are a religious invention to make us feel as if we are superior to animals (who 'don't have them'). Therefore, I obey my own moral code and ignore what anyone else think it should be.

Out of curiousity, why is this in the gaming forum?


Screwing the rules since 1989.

It isn't anymore!

Balladeer said:
I think you are joking there, but cannot be quite sure...Morals are a religious invention to make us feel as if we are superior to animals (who dont have them). Therefore, I obey my own moral code and ignore what anyone else think it should be. Out of curiousity, why is this in the gaming forum?

As far as I can see it's in General DiscussionSmilie

Ah, GR, explains it all(X-D)

( Edited on 18.02.2007 17:35 by Faust )

~Getting on C3's massive tits since 2K5.~

oldschool said:
United, you are clearly a christian and what is moral to you, will have clear boundaries set by your religious beliefs..

My names not United, never has been Smilie. Yes I am a Christian... however one thing that no-one may understand is the fact that to be a christian does NOT (I repeat) NOT mean I am religious. Religion is boring, unapealing, crap and traditional because they dont know how else to live. Its just a lable that people have put on boring old farts who have nothing else better to do. You really think that God, creater of everything is going to be boring? If you where God whould you be?

Sarah.

Bravo! Well said. Personally I don't believe in God, but I think that if it did exist it would want to see its children enjoying themselves as opposed to grovelling below it.

'Now, what are my children doing today? Having fun, I hope, and doing worthwhile, fulfilling things with their lives.'
'We are not worthy to receive you, oh Lord, but...'
'Damn.'


Screwing the rules since 1989.

Does being a non-religious Christian have something to do with corny music and lots of shouting?

It's going to be shit and you jolly well know it.

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