PGR4 limited by DVD size?

LINKAGE.

Oh dear. Well, I guess the 360 could have done with internal HD-DVD, after all. Cue lots of people citing 'lazy developers', etc. At the start of the console's life, Team Ninja (DOA makers) criticized the reliance on the old DVD format, as just the intro movie took up half the disc, and the game barely fit on the rest. A fighting game.

Well looks like their decision is coming back to bite them...

I wonder if HD-DVD would be beating Bluray right now if it was included in the 360.

Microsoft made the right decision in my opinion. Sure, fitting some games onto a DVD or even 2 DVDs will be a challange or simply not possible, but the majority of games will be fine.

I don't think the benefits of a HD-DVD drive would be worth the cost involved. Chances are if a HD-DVD drive was included in the 360 from the start, 360 sales would be significantly lower then they are currently...and that's much more important then the odd game that can't be put onto the 360.

Games like GTAIV will decide methinks.

If you look at the link, it also says how Rockstar have found the DVD format to be a limitation.

Oh noes! Hopefully they (and other developers) can manage with it.

Is it not possible to run games on the external HD-DVD drive?

Oh shit, this spells the end for Mass Effect,In terms of it being on one disk.

Soundworks said:
Oh noes! Hopefully they (and other developers) can manage with it. Is it not possible to run games on the external HD-DVD drive?

Possibly a wise choice, you don't want someone buying a console then finding out they have to spend well over

Smells like cheese said:

Soundworks said:Oh noes! Hopefully they (and other developers) can manage with it. Is it not possible to run games on the external HD-DVD drive?

No, Microsoft have said several times that it will only be used for HD-DVD films.Possibly a wise choice, you dont want someone buying a console then finding out they have to spend well over

K3rby said:
Oh shit, this spells the end for Mass Effect,In terms of it being on one disk.

Well nah, those games are alright. RPG sort of stuff don't matter if it's across multiple discs. It's when you get racing games and fighting games pushing the one disc, that's when it's a bit of a worry.

Smells like cheese said:
Possibly a wise choice, you dont want someone buying a console then finding out they have to spend well over

Well, they could make the HD-DVD optional, kinda like CDs and DVDs today on the PC. No one complained that Resident Evil was on two discs on the GC.

That's only because Resident Evil is a story-based game, with a totally linear progression. If GTA, or a fighting game, or a racing game (etc) where spread across different discs, you'd have to swap discs each time you went to different parts of the city/different cities, chose different characters or went to different arenas, chose different cars and/or raced on different tracks.

Therein lies the problem. On Resident Evil (or any other linear game), once you've gone to the next disc, the previous one is never used again (until you play it through additional times). In non-linear games, being multi-disc would mean swapping back and forth between discs contantly, and at totally random intervals. You may play one disc for three hours, and then swap between the first and third disc (or whatever) constantly every two minutes, for a period of four hours.

It's just not feasible, practical, or enjoyable. Linear story games are fine. Not non-linear games.

Hum.. obvious solution for this really. Why don't they just have dvd's with part of the game, and then have the rest of the game downloadable to the hard drive from XBL once the disc has been inserted? It'd probably help them shift that bigger hard drive o' theirs. Its a better bet that people have their 360 online than have the hd dvd player, and all you'd need is a one time net connection; either that or have two discs and have the 360 save all of the info from one of them so you only needed to use one to play the game.

I would not be surprised at all if there was no disc format next time around on microsofts format- they're all about live, and online distribution is cheaper and results in more impulse buys.