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The StratMan wishes to converse about the new series of Lost. He feels that the writers� strike was a blessing in disguise as the pace of the new series is far superior and more exciting. However, the StratMan is also worried that many questions will go unanswered for another season or two. Such as the sky turning purple.

The StratMan wishes to know your thoughts. He would also like to issue a warning. If you\'re not up to date, the StratMan urges you not to involve yourself in this thread.

( Edited 16.05.2009 13:53 by TheStratMan )

It's been fantastic so far. Eggtown was probably the weakest of the bunch, but it was still excellent viewing.

The Constant (the most recent episode) is probably my favorite episode of the entire series so far; outstanding stuff.

I don't think there is any reason to be worried about big answers not coming this season. After all, that was always going to be the case, no? It's a show based on mysteries, so they're not going to give away the big answers 'till very near the end.

Spoilers from here on in:

Still, the outright confirmation of time travel was probably the biggest 'answer' we've had so far. I can't imagine that all the show's mysteries will be dependent on it, of course, but it was great to see someone sit down and explain something for once.

I think the introduction of the four new characters was a stroke of genius and a great move towards getting some answers out there. Faraday's already started to explain some of the “sciency” stuff, and I'm sure the other two will get their turn.

I suspect Miles will have some insight into the whispers, the ghost-like apparitions we keep seeing (Jacob, Christian Sheppard, Yemi, Walt, etc), and Charlotte is surely here to uncover the island's history (giant foot statue, ruins, the hostiles/Dharma, etc).

I dare not delve too deeply into new theories, because I'll be here all day, but how about a couple:

Theory: The “sickness” Danielle described in season 1 is actually the “side effects” Desmond experienced in The Constant.

Evidence: Danielle essentially said that her team went mad (see confused Desmond). The nosebleeds, etc would look like an illness. One must be exposed to electromagnetism/radiation to be affected (Danielle's team were scientists, but she was pregnant so may have avoided experiments involving radiation whilst the others would not.)

Problems: Danielle also said that her team got sick two months after arriving on the island, whereas Desmond and Minkowski seem to be effected immediately. Of course, Danielle has a habit of lying, so who knows?

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Theory: What if Locke's cured paralysis and Rose's cured illness were the result of having their consciousness linked to another time (ala Desmond) when they were not suffering from said afflictions?

Evidence: Think of something like phantom limbs; the mind should know that the limb is missing, but the person is left to feel like it is still there, sometimes even in a semi-controllable state.

I've always been under the impression that the flashbacks were more than a simple storytelling device (and we're seeing more and more evidence of that now), but what if these glimpses into the past are the periods of time that our characters are linked too, even if they haven't had their consciousness directly transfered like Desmond because they haven't left the island?

In fact, it could be part of the reason why Lock and Rose don't want to/can't leave the island – because they would end up like Desmond; forced to re-stick themselves in time (and lose their new found health) or die from a brain aneurysm... The Island is unique because time works differently there, allowing consciousnesses from different periods to co-exist. (I also suspect that the whispers are voices of the dead from different time periods, watching the Losties, but unable to interfere directly..)

Problems: It's pretty out there, I know. And it seems more likely that a separate interpretation of the idea that there are “special places” around the globe (see Rose's flashback) is directly linked to the mysterious healing, but I thought it was a fairly interesting idea nonetheless.

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Okay, that' 15 minutes of my life I'm never getting back - I'm off to do something a little more productive.

(Also, if there's anyone here who looks at spoilers for upcoming episodes [even promo trailers – I'm being very restrained this year] – could you spoiler your comments and say that they're about unreleased eps? Thanks much!)

I agree Spydar, The Constant was my favourite by far, what a great episode.


The islands instillations create a electromagnetic force, one that effects developing Feotus\'s, but it also keeps those on the island safe from conscious flux because it is at the right frequency. The \"incident\" was a example of what happens when it is not maintained. When not maintained the island becomes visable to all others and the dangers that brings from the outside, and from within.

Desmond was in the base where a high source of Electromagnetism was found.

( Edited 05.03.2008 22:18 by Linkyshinks )

I think Desmond has had some brilliant episodes revolving around him, he really is a great character.

In the season 2 finale, I\'m pretty sure Michael is told to sail away at a bearing of 325. Frank flew the helicopter at 305 to get away from the island. Maybe this discrepancy between the bearings is somehow related.

Also, 5 more episodes now confirmed for this series, with the 3 out of the planned 16 not made being added to the other 2 series.

I\'m just waiting to see how...

Not sure if thats a spoiler, his name has been on the credits every episode so far this series but he has yet to surface.

Also,

( Edited 05.03.2008 23:24 by X )

I am absolutely LOVING this series of Lost - it\'s probably the best one yet IMO. We\'ve had a run of six great episodes now including the one that was shown in America this Thursday/the one that will be shown in the UK tomorrow, we\'ve actually had some answers along with our weekly dose of new questions and it just overall feels better.

I think it\'s a number of factors. Firstly, because the seasons are shorter it feels more frenzied - I\'m not sure if anybody else is picking up on that or if it\'s just me. Secondly, the new characters they\'ve introduced (Miles, Dan, Frank, Abbadon...not so sure about Charlotte yet), I reckon, are the best lot they\'ve introduced since Desmond and Ben\'s first appearances in series 2. For the first time it feels like we\'re going to be brought into the loop of what\'s going on and they\'re not just teasing anymore; why else would you bring an archaeologist, a ghost whisperer and a scientist to the island?

Thirdly, the show just feels fresh again with the changed situations with Locke and co. living it up in Otherville, and flash forwards have also helped with this a lot. I was extremely wary of the flash forward idea when it first happened, as I wasn\'t sure how they were going to do it without losing some of the tension, but thus far they\'ve managed to do it in a way that it gives you part of the end of the story without coming anywhere close to showing the big picture. It\'s just as fun now to try and figure out what\'s going on in the middle as well as the end.

What\'re peoples\' thoughts on Aaron? I know it was from the weakest episode of the series (well that\'s what I thought, but I find Kate to be a boring character...it was still a great episode, though), but it\'s the thing that makes me think the most. Why is he with Kate? I\'m thinking the possibilities are death of Claire, Claire passing him over to the survivors to give him a better life, or survivors stealing him...and based on Jack\'s reaction to the situation and his reluctance to see Aaron, I\'m going for the latter. I love how the characters are dipping into shades of grey in the future.

EDIT: One point of annoyance though: Claire\'s reaction to the death of Charlie. A few tears and then NOTHING. Pathetic, they could have at least had her appearing upset for a couple of episodes and nobody would have been bothered. I\'m not saying she needed an entire episode for it as they probably would have done if the seasons were longer still, but it would have been nice for it to have been at least mentioned outside of the first episode, such as to Kate when they were sharing a house for a short while.

Can\'t wait to see what you guys think of episode 6. I personally thought the quality was closer to that of The Constant than I expected, but I can see it being one of those that other people don\'t like and say is the weakest yet. I\'ll post about it a little more when people have seen it. Ben is awesome incarnate.

( Edited 09.03.2008 02:57 by Mason )

Ok this isn't strictly about lost. But id like to post a few links that will help people like myself that have been screwed by Virgin Media. I no longer have Sky so can't watch Lost or Prison Break, which i was devasted about because i love that show. So heres a bit of help for some people.

www.ninjavideo.net - this site is awesome, has loadsa films aswell as tv shows, lost, prison break, sarah connor chronicles etc. its brilliant. most of it is HQ aswell.

www.alluc.org. - this site is ok aswell. i mostly use it for anime, ive been watching the first season of yu gi oh all week lol.

hope they help.

Lost has been very very very good. I've been finding myself going "You bastard!" when it cuts to something else or ends just before we find something out.

Most of those tv sites seem like they've stopped adding episodes for some shows beyond certain episodes. Stage6 being shut down was also a big pineapple up the nostril.

That Ninjavideo went offline for a day last week, its very reliable on the whole though. Stuff goes up almost straight away (as they keep bragging about)The whole Sarah Connor Chronicles are up, It seems pretty reliable

Yeah they are cool, I have downloaded some great films off there lately. 10,000BC was pretty cool, and No Country For Old Men was class.

I watched 10,000 BC there and The Bank Job, both great films, its been slow as hell lately because loads of people have been accessing it but it seems to be better now ill probably try and catch Lost on there.

Ninja video wont work for me. It keeps saying that the DivX player can only play avi and divx files to me, and then does nothing. And the download link does nothing either.

So nobody torrents things like back in the old days anymore?

Anyway, regarding the latest episode...

Latest episode (episode 7) spoiler discussion. DO NOT look if you've not seen episode 7.

Do not read if you haven\'t seen episode 7:

( Edited 16.03.2008 23:34 by X )

So, what are everyones thoughts on the first 8 episodes of the new series?

I thought it was absolutely brilliant. Although there were a few weak parts, overall it was hugely fantastic and enjoyable.

And now theres a bitch of a wait until next month to find out any more.

I don't think Ben had anything to do with amassing those bodies!, why would you think that?. The people he murdered are in a pit in the jungle remember. Wossinames dad staged the whole thing by getting bodies from a Asian war burial or something. But then you should know that now after watching 8.

April 24: The shape of things to come.

It's on Ninja people, just watched it and it's awesome!

I'm pretty sure this guy has cracked it: Time Loop Theory

Nail. on. head.

Not for me their not.

I do not agree with this balance theory, Ben simply wants revenge.

Syed did not agree to work for Ben as a means of getting Nadia back, he did not say that in the episode when he agreed, and there was no discussion on anything of the sort in the episode. In what episode is anything on this mentioned?



I think the smoke monster is a security system and Ben started it up to kill them, but not via Jacob or anyone else. I think Ben has direct control over it and many other things via \"The Room\".

\"Imagine a room that whatever you wished inside it would give you what you want\"

Q: Who has the smoke monster killed so far in Lost?

Perhaps that might offer some insight.

( Edited 25.04.2008 16:34 by Linkyshinks )

I don't agree with that theory either

As far as I can remember:

Well yeah, there are some kinks to work out but the basic backbone to the theory seems pretty unquestionable to me. It just seems to fit so well.

I don\'t know episode names and I am not sure if Canada is on the same schedule as you in the UK. But based on today\'s other comments, I think I am on the same page show wise.

What theories do you have about the relationship between Ben and Charles Widmore?



What do you think, or did everyone already figure this one out?

( Edited 25.04.2008 18:52 by BlueRocks )

Yep, I remember Locke being dragged, but I forgot about Ecko being killed directly by it. I find this query fascinating, partly because Ecko knew he was going to die did he not, and it was the island that told him via apparition if I recall correctly. I cannot remember who though (?).

Have Ecko or Locke defied the island?

Am right in thinking that with Locke stood up to the smoke monster as a test of faith?, or was it a random attack?. Is there anything in the storyline at the time that could have initiated the attack on him?

I find it interesting that the first to die was the pilot. Killing the Pilot limits the possibility of escape, it seems like a tactical move, but initiated by whom I wonder. I think Ben.



Blue Rocks, I agree with what you think but I actually think it was Widmore\'s father, and not himself as the ages simply would not tie. Ben was a little boy when first on the island and Widmore is of a similar age.

The mind boggles, this is why Lost is a success.

( Edited 30.05.2008 15:43 by Linkyshinks )

I don't think Widmore founded it, I think he has either an interest in the island, or he found out about (maybe through DHARMA) and is now trying to find it to exploit it. Hanso/Candle/whoever.

The first time Locke stood before teh monster, and looked directly at it, but it did not attack him (I guess this was a test of fate), but he described it as 'Beautiful'.

The second time happened in the first season finale when they had obtained dynamite to blow up the hatch. The monster attacks them, and then drags Locke away. Locke for some reason wanted the others with him to let him go with the monster

Wow....just wow.

Seeing Ben's reaction to that-event-that-I-won't-mention-for-spoilers-sake was one of the best moments on the series. Actually seeing him genuinely on the backfoot and shocked, without going into over the top snot-down-face-hysterics made it near perfect.