Crysis due on PS3 soon but not 360?

I always said it would happen, there is no way the 360 can stream memory as well and efficiently as the PS3 can. The shift has started I think.

GamesRadar -

Even before the PC version released, rumours of a PS3 conversion of the stunning Crysis (developed by Far Cry creators Crytek) were rife, and not far off the mark if insiders at the studio are to be believed. The game looks to be a port of the PC original plus some bolstered extra modes and features, a kind of Crysis 1.5.

source - Gamesradar.com

PS3 owners rejoice, you are getting another fantastic game coming your way soon

I may even get it again if I cannot obtain the same new modes on my PC version. I think for certain PS3 owners will get the Zero G battle maps, if not you should be able download the mods. Crytek will allow this version open to modding I reckon, they have always encouraged it and support the community very well.

( Edited 11.03.2008 18:21 by Linkyshinks )

Let us remember that this information has not been confirmed in official form by any of the affected ones, neither EA nor CryTek; but every day the rumors of the arrival of the brilliant shooter to the PS3 sound more louder.

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Crumbley said:

Let us remember that this information has not been confirmed in official form by any of the affected ones, neither EA nor CryTek; but every day the rumors of the arrival of the brilliant shooter to the PS3 sound more louder.

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This has been banding around for a long while. The facts are Crytek are known to be making PC and PS3 games, because their engine can be supported by those formats. They are known to be working on two PS3 projects aside from this, but not one 360 game. It\'s easy to conclude that the 360 cannot support this engine otherwise they would be producing 360 games as well.

A 360 version with it\'s userbase would be very successful if they could manage it, so for them to not create a 360 version says it all I reckon. Videogames are improving at a rapid rate and it is the PC that is pushing the pinnacle, not console games. Crysis is the current pinnacle of the technology, I think it will speak volumes if it does not come to 360 and will be for me a indication of the shift to PS3. Currently top games on PC are going to 360 and vice-versa but if games of this technical calibre keep popping up they will go to PS3 because they could not reside anywhere else on console.

Some PC games are already using eight cores, there is no way a DualCore 3.2 of the like the 360 has can replicate that level of processing in future without severe loss to quality. Perhaps the Cell can with it\'s broadband bus and design nature, and better cooling. I think it will keep up with good programming and as the understanding of it\'s design increases.. In the future I would not be at all surprised if Sony pump up the core clock of the Cell with a Firmware update if need be. It has excellent heat extraction design, the very best of it\'s kind.

It has staying power, Sony designed it with the future of games in mind. The 360 was rushed into market with little concern for the future we are already starting to see now, clearly. This gen is all about realtime physics models, the 360 already struggles with it so games have to be designed around it.

( Edited 12.03.2008 02:58 by Linkyshinks )

There was advertisments for a PS3 development arm of Crytek on their website a few months ago, I reckon that they are making "Crysis 1.5".

I bet the \"tech problems\" are relate to Hard drives. NOT memory, considering the 360 has 512Mb that can be split anywhere (between graphics + other) whereas the PS3 has 256Mb FIXED for each.

Also, just FYI, NO games out are using 8 cores, games have barely started using 4, and I mean barely. The 360 has a TRIPLE core CPU, not a Dual core.

People should bare in mind when mentioning how awesome the cell is that NONE of it\'s cores are specifically designed for gaming.

Oh and what were these games that the 360 struggles on? Even now the PS3 is still worse in 90% of multi-platform games (check eurogamer.net\'s comparisons if you want)

I mean for god sake several respected developers have said there is very little between the 360 and PS3, what more do you need?

( Edited 11.03.2008 19:38 by Darkhound )

Even if this meaningless technocopypasta is correct, who cares? The future is scalable multiplatform engines like id tech 5. They made an engine that doesn't support their biggest potential platform! Yay them! Big pat on the back!

Crysis would never be able to run as well as on a PC because of the pathetic amount of RAM it has. Darkhound, the thing is that the 8 cores can be better put to use for shifting RAM about but in a game like Crysis which uses loads there would be so much movement you'd kill it. Just like how Oblivion has the constant loading in small parts on the 360/PS3 version. It's a sad fact that consoles can't do big games like PCs can.

Crumbley said:
Even if this meaningless technocopypasta is correct, who cares? The future is scalable multiplatform engines like id tech 5. They made an engine that doesn\'t support their biggest potential platform! Yay them! Big pat on the back!

Agreed. Developers should try their hardest to create games that are scalable for almost any platform.
Also, if a game depends so heavily on graphical power, it doesn\'t say much for the gameplay, imo. Sure, a level of graphical polish is expected now days, but truly great games are still awesome, without the glossiness turned up to 11.

( Edited 11.03.2008 22:34 by Ikana )

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Crytek Seeking Crysis 360 Publisher?
I guess Crytek isn't too pleased with EA as Primotech is reporting that the developer was showing off Crysis at the GDC on the Xbox 360 to prospective publishers. Let the bidding war begin:

At Crytek’s own booth, a representative from the studio revealed to me that the game was indeed being shown running on the Xbox 360, but only behind-closed-doors.

As much as I pleaded, the rep would not allow access, but did reveal that they were showing the game to prospective publishers.

EA was responsible for publishing the game on the PC, but apparently did not secure a deal at the same time to publish on consoles.

Even if it isn't, I don't see how a few tweaks here and there etc. can't make it. Sure, if there's currently work being done on making the Unreal Engine 3 (the engine of GoW2 ffs, with its dynamic water and tons and tons of on-screen enemies, sorry? Were you saying earlier that the 360 can't handle that kinda shit?) work on the Wii, well, anything's possible innit?

To tell you the truth Linkyshinks, I think you're talking bollocks. Feel free to prove me wrong of course. Give me enough evidence and I'll go along with your line of view, no problem. Show us some evidence.

This new Crysis game might not even be a port. Could just be a watered down spinoff like Crysis: First Blood or Crysis: The Jake Dunn Chronicles or some shit. Dunno though, let's just wait till the rumours get more, more louder.

No offence mate.

Darkhound said:
I bet the \"tech problems\" are relate to Hard drives. NOT memory, considering the 360 has 512Mb that can be split anywhere (between graphics + other) whereas the PS3 has 256Mb FIXED for each.

Also, just FYI, NO games out are using 8 cores, games have barely started using 4, and I mean barely. The 360 has a TRIPLE core CPU, not a Dual core.

People should bare in mind when mentioning how awesome the cell is that NONE of it\'s cores are specifically designed for gaming.

Oh and what were these games that the 360 struggles on? Even now the PS3 is still worse in 90% of multi-platform games (check eurogamer.net\'s comparisons if you want)

I mean for god sake several respected developers have said there is very little between the 360 and PS3, what more do you need?

WRONG and WRONG, FarCry2 uses 8 cores on intels new Skulltrail motherboards and the game has been specifically designed to use eight cores with intel\'s assistance.

It has nothing at all to to with the HD (:s). Yeril Cervat lead designer of the game has already said it is a issue with memory and how out dated console memory is in comparison to that of PC memory.

Video footage of the game utilizing using 8 cores

GDC08 Demo-

( Edited 12.03.2008 00:57 by Linkyshinks )

Well Far Cry 2 is coming out on the 360 as well, so we'll see how they'll all compare. I'm expecting the same old, same old. PC version slightly better (if you're rich), with the 360 and PS3 versions running more or less the same as each other. I bet you a fiver.

There's so much crap surrounding this 8 cores thing. The PS3's been out almost a year here and still don't know exactly what difference does having 8 cores actually make? Can anyone (knighty? Linkyshinks? Grumbler?) clear it up for me once and for all? No PR shit please.

The PC version will look quite a bit better, not as good as the above video for most of course. By the end of the year those Skull motherboards will be a lot cheaper and many PC Gamers will be getting one, I included after selling my current one. FarCry2 Dunia Engine is said to be better scalable than CryEngine2, and more forgiving on weaker PCs than Crysis is.

The technical question you ask can be simply answered. The more cores you have the better ability to process data sent the CPU\'s way, it\'s that simple. But why 8 cores?. These new games are very intensive on CPU\'s due to the open world nature of these games alongside all the graphical polish you see. They have to stream a lot of data simultaniously to the CPU in order to keep things ticking. DX10 can stream data like this with no problem, DX9 will struggle and better programing is required as a result. People on this forum (oni and Grumbler) seem to think DX10 is possible on DX9, that is simply not true, they have no idea at all if they think that off the back of some unlock for a Crysis demo. Ab few minimal DX10 effects are possible in DX9 but that is missing the whole point entirely. DX10 is all about sending multiple streams of data that multicore CPU\'s can process efficiently. (more than twice as much as DX9 can) The GPU\'s on PC as well as consoles cannot handle everything in such games, particuarly in respect to high level physics that these games use a lot now, (and more so in the future). This year will see PC graphics cards having dedicated PhysX CPU\'s on board to furthur take off the strain on CPU\'s. (Nvidia bought PhysX)

You cannot compare the physics models shown in UE3.1 on the Gears2 demo and compare it to waht you see in Crysis and FC2, it is nowhere near as complex, these games are on a whole new level!. What you are talking about are minimal effects in comparison to a fully physically realised environment as you seen in these games.

8 cores will eventually be common place as Dual Core and Quad core is now currently among gamers. There are few games in the works that are said to designed to utilize 8, not as standard but as a means of playing games at their graphical limit.

PC games of the like push the technology to the limit and games on consoles in turn play a constant game of catch up and trying to replicate the advancements you see on PC. This is especially true when such games bring about radical changes to a genre as you see in Crysis. Console games have to adapt and improve just as much as PC games and that\'s what developers try to do, only they have a much tougher job when designing for consoles because of the locked nature of the specs.

When I look at these games I don\'t just see fancy graphics like others may do, I see graphics that have a direct impact on gameplay, of a level that is simply not seen on consoles now.

( Edited 12.03.2008 10:18 by Linkyshinks )

The answer seems simple, if you all think the console versions are going to be watered down, under achieving knock off's then just play it on the PC.

Console gamers never have and never will care about what a PC can do better than a console and how it affects their games.

Quad cores common place among gamers? Stop the company PR regurgitation Linkyshinks.

Oh, and I believe you about Far Cry 2 using 8 cores...about as efficiently as Kate Moss's menstruation cycle. It's all bullshit.

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Anyway, i've never heard of 8 core processer before, i'd have though 4 cores would've been enough for anything.

And i'd have thought the PS3 version of Crysis would've been scaled down slightly for it to run smoothely.

Slydevil said:
Quad cores common place among gamers? Stop the company PR regurgitation Linkyshinks.

Oh, and I believe you about Far Cry 2 using 8 cores...about as efficiently as Kate Moss's menstruation cycle. It's all bullshit.

Thanks moderator. If you are going to quote me do so in full next time, for one I said PC gamer secondly I said both Dual core and Quad core. Take you pic idiot-

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http://www.google.com/search?q=far+cry+2+using+8+cores&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3DVFA_en__242GB242

As far as I know there is not such thing as an 8 core processor outside of the PS3 yet, it's just 2 quad cores on mobo's like the skulltrail LS mentioned.

Don't call people idiots Linkyshinks.

I was referring to PC gamers, and I didn't take you out of context at all, how did my only mentioning the fact you said quad core alter the fact you said dual core as well.

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Slydevil said:
...I believe you about Far Cry 2 using 8 cores...about as efficiently as Kate Moss's menstruation cycle.

The fact they're hashing on some so called 8 core support isn't even worth a forum message. It's all bragging rights to get people like you frothing. There is no PC game yet that effectively makes use of quad cores yet.

Rubbish, intel have been working closely with the developers of both games so they make use of ALL 8 cores as they have said numerous times.

Yup, as Intel has said.

Well as CuRoi said, the PS3 rumor has no more weight than the 360 rumor. Plus, let us not forget, the 360 has a superior GPU.

I already half-knew about what you said Linkyshinks before I asked, main gripe was with all this stuff about games not using the full 8 cores, people pointing to the 8 cores as a reason for this and that effect, and, most of all, with the drawbacks. You make it sound all diddly-dandy. Don't the PS3's cores (or PPEs or SPEs or whatever the casual unfriendly terminology is) each have their own (small) cache while 360's have one large one between them? Meaning the PS3's have to rely on the main RAM more (don't hold me to that observation)? Are the PS3 SPEs more powerful than the 360's cores individually? I know collectively they are like. Thanks anyway. star.

But that's all geek stuff, the main reason I posted here in the first place though was in response to your 'CryEngine 2 doesn't work on the 360' comment. Crytek said this

This year's engine will be shown for the first time running on multiple hardware platforms such as the PS3 and Xbox 360 to a select audience

I can't see how they could tweak it to work on the PS3 but on the 360. Sure, it won't look like it does on a PC, but considering it doesn't look like it does on a PC on a PC right now that's not bad. Is the reason why it's only coming to the PS3 (if GR are right) really due technical limitations? Maybe EA have a deal with Sony? How many did Crysis sell? Is sales part of the reason they're bringing it to the PS3? Think it might be more worth the investment? Or maybe Crytek just find the PS3 easier to deal with for Crysis, don't see how it has to spell doom and gloom for the 360.

Slydevil said:
Yup, as Intel has said.

Ubisoft FarCry2 Developer "USING ALL 8 CORES" :

http://video.aol.com/video-detail/pre-release-far-cry-2-running-on-intels-just-announced-extreme-gaming-platform-codenamed-sk/3887332165

I allways wanted to play Crysis, it looked awsome, but I looked at the minimum reqs on the PC version, and well its a nasty mess of upgrading for me and other vista users. So thank god that its now a PS3 game.

I heard rumors of this ages ago but then nothing of it, so I thought they might have given up.

Hah, I just realised, I have a xBox 360 playing friend who is called crysis, (might be spelt that way...maybe, if youre online correct me) who won't be able to play it, lol