Ace Attorney Series

Lyra said:

Ikana said:
I fudging love living a one minute walk from Blockbusters! *starts playing*

This is probably a silly question but did you rent it? (I haven't seen a Blockbusters for years so I don't know if you can buy stuff in there or just rent stuff)

Nope, I don't rent games. Bought it. They have loads of stuff to buy in there. Almost bought Uncharted too whilst I was looking for AA Investigations, but managed to restrain myself, I can't really afford to spend a whole lot, this was kinda pushing it.

( Edited 23.02.2010 20:24 by Ikana )

Ikana said:
Nope, I don't rent games. Bought it.

Jacob4000 said:
I'll still get it though. Just need to finish Apollo Justice first.

Unfortunately it also just makes my craving for AA5 that much stronger. I really hope we hear more about it soon...

Grr. Bump. (Sorry )

I finished the game last night, so yay, impressions time. Most of you with the game probably haven't gotten that far, so I'll use spoilers when needed.

If you haven't finished the game, please don't click the spoilers, or you're an idiot.

Alright, I'm both impressed and disappointed. While I wasn't expecting it to be like the old Ace Attorney games, it was quite a lot like them, minus the court cases. Unfortunately despite the cases being well thought out, they're just not as exciting as those from the other games, and there seem to be very few "edge of seat" moments.

The final case, imo, doesn't even begin to compare to Turnabout Goodbyes - Rise From The Ashes - Farewell, My Turnabout - Bridge To The Turnabout - or even Turnabout Succession in terms of how exciting things can get. Case 5 spoilers:

AAI also reuses a disappointing amount of plot elements and ideas from other games in the series, they might be references, but when it comes to your game's plot, references aren't the best way to fill it up. The whole game reaks of Masque DeMask with the whole thief thing going on Case 4 and 5 spoilers:

That said, I did really like the new main characters introduced in AAI. Unlike past assistants, Kay has no problem with being genuinely helpful, Lang is a cool guy, and other characters like Shih-na, Yew and Badd were very well done too. Except for Yew's laughing which I found to be a bit of a forced character trait.... I'd really like some of these characters to appear again, and some even show signs of being in future games, be in spin off or mainseries.

Lastly the cameo roles from familiar characters. There are a lot of them, and unfortunately I think the writers went out of their way to include some of them, that just didn't fit in. Case 3 spoilers:

Concluusioon~
AAI is a very awesome imitation, it doesn't feel canon, but hopefully its events will be recognised in future AA titles which will rectify its importance in some ways. For me, as awesome as it was, I didn't feel glued to my DS as often as I had been with previous titles. It just felt more like an appetiser. D:

tl;dr awesome game, but not exactly AA standard.

EDIT Oh and how could I forget, the sprite animations aren't anywhere near AJ quality, and lack of any CGI cutscenes or investigating things like luminol, footprints, or rearranging crime scenes, all gone. This game would have worked nicely enough on the GBA, the music and sprite quality is all that tells me this is a DS game.

( Edited 26.02.2010 11:12 by Lyra )

Minor bump, but for those of you looking to get into the Ace Attorney series, but can't find the original DS game and don't want to play the lazy WiiWare version, it is now on the ipod App store!

�£2.99, with all five of the DS game's cases. Just bought it, will give impressions later. Can't wait to play it.

Just completed AAI, at last. I pretty much agree with SuperLink; brilliant game, but not quite as gripping as the main series, and the last case did seem to drag on a bit. The script was great as usual, lots of hilarious moments methinks. Can't wait for them to announce the next installment of the Ace Attorney Series. I guess the next one will probably be on the 3DS, huh?

Now to get some sleep, so I'm nice and refreshed tomorrow to tackle the final boss of Persona 4. ;D

Wow.

Just, Wow.

Capcom, you have another Phoenix Wright fan ready and waiting for you to release game #2 on the App store.

Quite honestly, this is one of so few games I've played where the writing is the most enjoyable part of the game. The characters are zany and awesome (disliked Edgeworth until chapter 4, was so happy to see that Vampire-like von guy get beaten ), and the plots, oh god the plots; the way each case gets completely turned on its head is easily one of the most satisfying things in gaming today.

I'm on Chapter 5 right now, so it's safe to say I'm outside of the game's main plotline, but yeah, please hurry up with Justice For All Capcom.

Actually, a couple of things I'm curious about;

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On a similar note, can you change Maya leaving at the end of Case 4? Does picking evidence change anything? Because I picked the Parrot, since I figured that her persuading the Parrot to talk got the case going, but I guess I was wrong.

Phoenixus said:
Wow.

Just, Wow.

Capcom, you have another Phoenix Wright fan ready and waiting for you to release game #2 on the App store.

Quite honestly, this is one of so few games I've played where the writing is the most enjoyable part of the game.

I'm on Chapter 5 right now, so it's safe to say I'm outside of the game's main plotline, but yeah, please hurry up with Justice For All Capcom.

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At the end of case 3, do you find out why Jack Hammer wanted to frame Will Power? I probably didn't pick the right evidence, but I'm guessing it was jealousy?

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On a similar note, can you change Maya leaving at the end of Case 4? Does picking evidence change anything? Because I picked the Parrot, since I figured that her persuading the Parrot to talk got the case going, but I guess I was wrong.

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Nope, Maya leaving is part of the plot, but don't worry you'll see her again in the second game

I still think the DS versions would offer the best experience

You hadn't played them Phoenixus??

please hurry up with Justice For All Capcom.

The second game is a bit of a letdown compared to the first, but the last case of Justice for All is one of the most amazing things I've ever witnessed in gaming.

And then Trials and Tribulations is nothing but awesome all the way through.

( Edited 30.05.2010 17:40 by Jacob4000 )

Jacob4000 said:
You hadn't played them Phoenixus??

Nah, the DS games were kinda expensive, so I was waiting on a possible compilation of all three P.H games in one; couldn't refuse the first game on the App store for 3 quid though.

I'm tempted, because the store down the road has J.f.A case-less for about 4 quid, but I would like all the games on one system, so I think I'll hold out a while.

Phoenixus said:
I'm tempted, because the store down the road has J.f.A case-less for about 4 quid, but I would like all the games on one system, so I think I'll hold out a while.

Hmm, good point. I'll get the three P.H's on Ipod and those 2 on DS then.

Phoenixus, the reason that X leaves at the end of Case 4 is because in the original GBA game, it ended at Case 4.

Case 5 was especially added for the Nintendo DS version. You can tell with the touch screen additions and slightly different set up from the previous 4 cases.

( Edited 16.08.2010 17:08 by Ultima )

On that note, love case 5 - tis weird using the Wii Remote on the WiiWare edition, but very much awesome. The plot, characters blend very well together. Would definitely like to see more cases like this in a possible 4th outing for Phoenix.

I'm sorry, but I just have to do this.

You certainly did.

Argh, PW2 still isn't up on iOS yet, at this rate Ghost Trick will get there first, and after playing the demo I bloody NEED that game.

Edit: Hey Jacob, just a thought, will you be changing your avi to a 3DS? Add 3D imagery of Wright's OBJECTION pose for maximum win.

( Edited 18.01.2011 01:51 by Phoenixus )

Been looking everywhere for a copy of Phoenix Wright 3 for my bro, who's a fan. He owns all of them on DS except this one. Best price I found so far for that one is on ebay at 24€, but the shipping fee for ordering from Germany is just ridiculous. Play-Asia had copies of the Japanese version not too long ago (which holds the English script), but it quickly went out of stock it seems...

Screw you Capcom for not putting enough copies on the shelves in my own country > !! I even had to import a US ME Investigations copy cuz the european release is so hard to come by.

EDIT Oh and how could I forget, the sprite animations aren't anywhere near AJ quality, and lack of any CGI cutscenes or investigating things like luminol, footprints, or rearranging crime scenes, all gone. This game would have worked nicely enough on the GBA, the music and sprite quality is all that tells me this is a DS game.

Idk if most of you guys have heard this already, but..
The current chances of AAI2 being localised are extremely low it seems, it's really quite depressing to think that we might never get it, and even more upsetting to think this may be it for AA as far as the west is concerned...

I don't know what's happened with Capcom over the last half a year, they've cancelled many interesting prospects (like the MegaMan games) and now this. Don't tell me they plan on whoring out Fighting games and RE for the rest of eternity?

I may be overreacting, but as a huge AA fan I'm upset about this to say the least.

( Edited 09.04.2011 18:18 by SuperLink )

SuperLink said:
Don't tell me they plan on whoring out Fighting games and RE for the rest of eternity?

I may be overreacting, but as a huge AA fan I'm upset about this to say the least.

SirLink said:

Don't forget Monster Hunter. I find this a shame too. I didn't play any AA game yet but I was planning to get into the series with the probable 3DS games, as the DS ones aren't that easy to get anymore.

That is if they even happen, with Shu Takumi off doing other things and AAI2 not going west I feel like the series will inevitably die. There's only been one new mainseries title in the last half a decade...

( Edited 09.04.2011 18:33 by SuperLink )

SuperLink said:

Idk I beg to differ, the series has never relied on console power, it's not likely the 3DS ones will be very different at all to the GBA/DS ones.

That is if they even happen, with Shu Takumi off doing other things and AAI2 not going west I feel like the series will inevitably die. There's only been one new mainseries title in the last half a decade...

SirLink said:

I didn't mean that the 3DS games are going to be better or different because of the hardware power, but a 3DS game would mean that I can get a hold of it relatively easy since it's new and it would be a good starting point to get into the series as well I suppose, since the first one for the DS goes for very high prices right now.

Seeing as AA is a heavily story/continuity based series, the chances of any possible 3DS games being a fresh start are quite low, even Apollo Justice connects heavily with the other titles in the series afterall, so I would definitely recommend starting from the "first book in the series" per se.

And they are amazing games, I doubt any future AA game will ever beat the original trilogy, so I really can't recommend them enough! It'd be a shame to miss out on them, especially if you plan on eventually getting into the series.

If you have a Wii or an iPod/Phone, you could get them much cheaper for that. As for Apollo Justice and Investigations, they're only on the DS for now.

( Edited 09.04.2011 18:47 by SuperLink )

SuperLink said:
Idk if most of you guys have heard this already, but..
The current chances of AAI2 being localised are extremely low it seems, it's really quite depressing to think that we might never get it, and even more upsetting to think this may be it for AA as far as the west is concerned...

I don't know what's happened with Capcom over the last half a year, they've cancelled many interesting prospects (like the MegaMan games) and now this. Don't tell me they plan on whoring out Fighting games and RE for the rest of eternity?

I may be overreacting, but as a huge AA fan I'm upset about this to say the least.

I really hope Capcom reconsider and give us AAI2. It would be stupid not to, we got the first. Why not give us the sequel? Come on Capcom... you never usually do this to us.

Mush123 said:

There's also a slim chance of us getting Layton vs. Phoenix Wright as Level 5 is pretty much taking charge of the title and "they currently have no plans to release it in the Western market".

I really hope Capcom reconsider and give us AAI2. It would be stupid not to, we got the first. Why not give us the sequel? Come on Capcom... you never usually do this to us.

As for Professor Layton Vs Phoenix Wright, I have confidence Level 5 will localise it, and Capcom will persuade them to. Layton sells too well in the west for them to miss out.

Oh yeah, there's Professor Layton as well, another series which I didn't play yet. Do you think if the crossover gets localised, would it be useful for getting a good grasp of both franchises? I don't think I've read anything about how the game plays or something yet...